to be elevated as a special counselor to president trump people have made a lot of this because peter navarro has some pretty strong ideas about free trade and where he thinks the problems are with free trade. he's made the argument that having a trade deficit is a bad thing inherently do you agree with that >> well, i actually wrote an article about it some years ago in "forbes" and i think having -- having very large trade deficits as a percentage of your gdp means you're transferring wealth abroad to other countries or claims on wealth, you know, and i felt we were -- that was excessive a dozen years ago or so. i don't like the idea of running huge trade deficits as a percentage of gdp at all you can say you're fooling foreigners because you're just handing them little pieces of paper and they're working hard making underwear, shoes, everything to ship to you. why not give them little pieces of paper that will get inflated away at some point, but i don't like large trade deficits. on the other hand, trade benefitted us and the other world enormously over time it doesn't mean that there can