gerry: and back with former trump white house peter navarro we are pretty disappointing numbers on theer this week we had the numbers much weaker than forecast on top of that the biden administration of the democrats have more spending, more spending, the bipartisan deal with solid support from republicans in the senate for a deal on infrastructure spending and then the democrats want to press ahead with a bigger plan we see how that will be between two and three and half trillion when you were in the white house the trump administration spent a lot of money helping the economy already we seem to be in a mode where there's no limit to the willingness of republicans and democrats to spend money. >> clearly desensitize, not just to the trillions and trillions of dollars that we keep want to spending but to the behavior of the federal reserve which is actively accommodating that spending by printing money which is going to be inflationary, driving the dollar down, i think there is seven things i can point to you in the biden administration. what we did the biden's undoing tax-cut, deregul

joining me now top advisor to president trump on trade and manufacturing peter navarro an early componentaggressive response to the pandemic and a key force behind the operation warp speed which was a successful measure by the trump administration to robot vaccines. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. gerry: let's start with where we are we do seem to be going backwards as far as where we are in the pandemic we thought we were liberated from the pandemic restrictions and lockdowns and everything else another delta variant is surging but without any significant risk, thank god that can help the vaccinated people but we seem to be going backwards in terms of what our freedoms are, what is going on. >> let me take you back in time to february 9, 2020 in the white house with doctor stephen hatfield, rick wright from the health and human services and we were getting operation warp speed jumpstarted and i mentioned this because at the time we were looking at the experimental gene therapy, the mrna that have been produced by pfizer image irna and at that time, we were clear eyed about

okay >> peter navarro. >> navarro a guest tonight on "jeopardy." >> looking for something to do. >> hend i are going to the mermaid parade together. >> dressed as a shrimp yes, but, no incharge of china reses and said, listen, these are all very big pigeon holdings in the united states. and we forget. these companies were, because they're in these indices, msci, they are gaffing, gaffing at people worldwide, because the communist are back to being, their communists. >> the one i wonder. >> they are still interested in having a -- a strong capital market certainly over there. >> and the companies -- >> may not want the -- the executives of some of these companies and the multibillionaires that have been created to have a great deal of power, but it's unclear to me they really want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. >> is it authoritarian capitalism or authoritarian communist? >> what did navarro have to say? >> you know, navarro says not capitalism it's just outright dictatorship, and that we act as if somehow they were allowed in to the rest of the world commerce, and that the

we are joined by peter navarro it is good to have you on.s really going on behind the scenes, do you think >> one thing, joe, xi jinping might have taken a look at what google, facebook and twitter did to donald trump and his power and decided big tech isn't going to get that big. so there's that. big tech in china is their target but one of the biggest victims was american pension fund what we've had in the wake of what's happened is we've already a a slow burn because of the zero interest rates and ability to generate high returns we've seen a $400 billion bite out of these stocks. you know the rule here, joe. it's hard enough to make up missed returns it is almost impossible to grab back capital when i was in the white house, we spent a lot of time talking about the need and took some action preventing pension funds in investing in chinese stocks there would be a kyle bass, roger robinson, the dmitcommittf present danger all sorts of people including myself have warned us. with a stroke of a pen, xi jinping can wipe out an entire industry

doctort peter navarro says they should stop looking into the potentialas lovely.hat aloud worker was patient zero, everybody gets antidotal going we understand people are up to speed on about why not the d.c. establishment why is there here on fire about this. this is enormous told survivors we have to figure out how was started to does it happen again. where is the hair on fire from dr. fauci and the rest of washington about this in the democrats where is the i declassification push, enough is enough people have had it with this. >> some honest outrage by these people would go a long way for the 600,000 family members who have lost somebody or the 4 million people worldwide people have a right too be angry and when you downplay the origins, i get in the in ih was funding the law they shouldn't of done it how is the head of the nih infectious disease, what i would be telling you i would say i feel horrible this is a terrible mistake, i'm sorry that should never happen i never should've advocated for gain-of-function research of any kind. what we see is looking the

involving a host of trump world denisons, including hope hicks, robert o'brien, trump advisor peter navarrot tiffany trump. rudy giuliani and roger stone. the records request also asked the national archives for communication within the white house with any members of congress or congressional staff. select committee chairman bennie thompson has previously said he is seeking to obtain phone records of members of congress related to the january 6th investigation. let's bring in clint watts, former fbi consultant to the fbi, counterterrorism division, now a distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute and an msnbc national security analyst and eugene daniels, white house correspondent for politico, playbook, co-author as well as an msnbc contributor. guys, this is massive. this is massive. eugene, i'm just going to start with this. i saw the list of what was requested. it was like filling out an eharmony application. it was everything. have you ever seen a congressional committee ask for this much information from the white house? is this normal or are we really seei