>> i think peter norman recuperated in the sense that peter norman knew who peter norman was. he billed built his character around the legacy of his family. he never vacated from himself as to who he was. i think society had to grow up to the mentality of peter norman. tavis: we see today athletes who are as successful as you were come back home and make all kinds of money with endorsements and the like. obviously that wasn't going to happen for you and tommy smyth, when you returned but tell me about the economics. i worked for tom bradley when he worked for this city and i was just a kid. you were economically destitute when you got back. >> well, you know, it is amazing. when you have all the money that you have saved going out and you have nothing coming in. fortunately for me, i was able to see the newspaper and saw they were hiring in a new program and i recall going one of my olympic buddies and saying this might be a shot in the arm for us. let's go apply for these jobs. i took a job as a gardner caretaker. tavis: a gardner caretaker. >> yes. i had this experience this

. >> it was planned by god you know god reached down and picked up three grains of sand, peter norman and john carlos we didn't have to do what we did, god put us in a position and made us realize where else can we make this statement where we reach the far ends of this society where we live other than the olympic games i could stand in front of the empire state building but wouldn't reach the number of people that need to see and hear. >> you talk about the fall out -- we are out of time i really wish i could find 10 more minutes to talk to you if you could just sort of tell me in a nutshell afterwards the fall out from that, and if there are any regrets from that moment. >> let's start at the end no regrets whatsoever for what i did in the past if it was necessary for me to stand for rightouseness again i will stand for it right now today. relative to you know fall out, it was like sunshine impede crately turned to stormy wealth -- immediately turned to stormy weather that is what it was. >> read the book for more this is the john carlos story a pleasure talking to you. >> oh, it's

smith, you can never go without mentioning peter norman as well. tuation. >> that is important to point out. talk about what followed from that moment on the medal stand dr. carlos because you were condemned almost immediately. there was talk of stripping your medal though you still have it today. >> oh, well you know put up propaganda for 43 years saying they took our medals away, you know. we were going to strip you of the carrot if you misbehaved so to speak. but yet, still, those days are put to rest. the main thing is we put the demonstration up to give people hope. when it started out it started out to say we're concerned about people of color, blacks in particular. we found out over the years it just entrenched everyone regardless of your ethnic background. many people have been oppressed all over the world and it doesn't have anything to do with color. it might have something to do with economic status based on how your standard of living is. >> the "new york times" has a great story about this book and. in the times they quote you saying, i

norman coleman, serves as a senior medical advisor. peter on our republican line. you are on with dr. coleman. caller: good morning. i am old enough to remember the world war ii f x of atomic radiation. has there been any use of the studies made in the 1960's on radiation -- chernobyl, three mile island, and for the japanese earthquake and radiation fallout from the plants, the effects of that situation will not be available for 20 years, as was the result of chernobyl and what were ii and three mile island. there is no sense making predictions today on what will happen 20 years from now and complimenting people in japan on the great job. the effect will come out in 20 years, good and bad. guest: thank you for that question. the answer is, we have made incredible use of all of the information from what were ii, chernobyl. the people who are most expert on the brake -- radius and effects are the japanese. the question i was addressing is whether there were acute deaths from radiation, and the answer is there were not. what one worries about next is the probabilistic

norman coleman is our guest. health and human services' office of prepared as where he serves as senior medical adviser. vernon, conn., peter is on our line. caller: good morning, dr. coleman. i am old enough to remember the world war ii the effects. chernobyl, three mile island, and the japanese fallout from the plant, that information will now be available for 20 years as was the result for chernobyl and world war ii and three mile island. those making predictions say on what will make -- those making predictions on what will happen 20 years from now and patting each other on the back for what a great job japan did the summit cents. guest: -- does not make sense. guest: first, you have the acute exposure where there have not been any cases. next, you have studies being done to follow that. in fukushima, where they are in fukushima, where they are making