we got that call peter norman. he picks up the phone, what do you blamemy americans want now? i said, hey, peter, it's carlos. hey, how you doing! i'm kind of disenchanted. what's the matter? i understand you don't want to have your statue built here. no, john, who told you that? he said, let me tell you something, john, i love you until the sun go and come back, and i'm going to still have love for you. he said, man, only reason why i don't want my statue is there because i didn't do what you and tommie did, i supported it. i thought it was only appropriate that i would leave my space blank so that anybody that come from anywhere on planet earth that could understand what you guys was all about and want to lend support, they can stand right there where i stood and take a picture with you guys. now, let me tell you something, tommie smith, i love him. tommie would have never did that. [laughter] okay? ever would he have done that. so i, i'm telling you that i have the utmost respect, admiration and love for peter long after i leave this world, man, because he's a true man. >> h