. >> charlie: would peter o'toole had something do with it. >> he was asked to write his ough autobiogray and said if someone can tell me what happened between 1967 and 1980 i'd be thrilled to do so. >> charlie: you know what they said churchill used to do when writing the history of world war ii. >> make it up? >> charlie: no, he didn't make it up but he would make everybody -- because he won the war, make everybody in the room write what they knew first and then he would look at it all and both jog his memory as well as square with the way he thought it was which is an old journalistic trick too which is if you're writing something which is non-fiction you get everybody in the room and get one to tell you and go to the other and say, this is what i've heard and then you get another part of it and ifomebody doesn't wa to talk to you if they know everybody else has talked they want to talk because they want to make sure their version has been heard too. this is what bob woodward has done to extraornary success. >> it's a very good idea. >> charlie: what about -- >> bringing things out of

peter o'toole. he probably got more nominations than anyone in history.ever won. >> when you heard the magical words, "winner, morgan freeman," honestly what were you thinking when you heard that? >> you want the truth or you want me to make something up? >> the truth. >> i knew it. >> really? >> yeah. see, to me an academy award is for best actor. best supporting actor is a runner-up prize. >> so it doesn't count really. >> it does because people can still say you won an academy award. >> but to you you still need to win the best actor. >> well, as i say, i'd much prefer to be nominated now for best actor. >> is that one of the things that continues to drive you to work so hard? because you don't need to. >> no. no, no, no. awards you'll get if you're good enough or if you get the public's attention. but no, working is working. it's just that. i always wanted to be in the movies. i'm in the movies. i want to stay -- keep doing it. i enjoy it a lot. >> i want to play you a clip from my favorite morgan freeman movie. it's no great secret because we touched