eleanor odom, peter odom, tamara holder. peter odom, what about her telling the cops? and this is obviously a voluntary statement. "i tried to make the best possible sex ever over and over and over again." then she goes on. and this is a new one on me. i've heard a lot of descriptions of a lot of perps. she describes his nipples. peter? thoughts? >> nancy, in the recordings that we're hearing, you know, it was the perpetrator, the so-called kidnapper, maybe hoax kidnapper, that decided what to record, not the victim in this case, ms. quinn. so you have to wonder what's going on during the times when he's not taping himself. we've heard of stockholm syndrome, where sometimes kidnapping victims actually -- >> wait, wait. put him back up. >> -- identify with kidnappers. >> peter, there's no kidnapping, so there's no stockholm syndrome. okay? there was no kidnapping. that was her with her lover. okay? you do get it, right? she was never kidnapped, peter odom. >> this case still has questions all over it, nancy. >> could you explain to me, peter odom -- >> he had some power

eleanor odom, peter odom, tamara holder. peter odom, what about her telling the cops? and this is obviously a voluntary statement. "i tried to make the best possible sex ever over and over and over again." then she goes on. and this is a new one on me. i've heard a lot of descriptions of a lot of perps. she describes his nipples. peter? thoughts? >> nancy, in the recordings that we're hearing, you know, it was the perpetrator, the so-called kidnapper, maybe hoax kidnapper, that decided what to record, not the victim in this case, ms. quinn. so you have to wonder what's going on during the times when he's not taping, himself. we've heard of stockholm syndrome, where sometimes kidnapping victims actually -- >> wait, wait. put him back up. >> -- identify with kidnappers. >> peter, there's no kidnapping, so there's no stockholm syndrome. okay? there was no kidnapping. that was her with her lover. okay? you do get it, right? she was never kidnapped, peter odom. >> this case still has questions all over it, nancy. >> could you explain to me, peter odom -- >> he had some powe

eleanor odom, peter odom, tamara holder. peter odom, what about her telling the cops?tatement. "i tried to make the best possible sex ever over and over and over again." then she goes on. and this is a new one on me. i've heard a lot of descriptions of a lot of perps. she describes his nipples. peter? thoughts? >> nancy, in the recordings that we're hearing, you know, it was the perpetrator, the so-called kidnapper, maybe hoax kidnapper, that decided what to record, not the victim in this case, ms. quinn. so you have to wonder what's going on during the times when he's not taping, himself. we've heard of stockholm syndrome, where sometimes kidnapping victims actually -- >> wait, wait. put him back up. >> -- identify with kidnappers. >> peter, there's no kidnapping, so there's no stockholm syndrome. okay? there was no kidnapping. that was her with her lover. okay? you do get it, right? she was never kidnapped, peter odom. >> this case still has questions all over it, nancy. >> could you explain to me, peter odom -- >> he had some power over her. he had some power over h

also out of atlanta, defense attorney peter odom.ut of new york, defense attorney renowned in his jurisdiction, alex sanchez. okay. eleanor, give me best case scenario. as the prosecutor could i get this into evidence? this 15-year-old girl, if she's going to be treated like an adult, and we learned today that that decision will be held in open court, that's right, we'll be able to get into the courtroom and see what this girl is all about. can i get in the youtube and twitter if i can establish she actually posted it? eleanor. >> yes, you can, nancy. that's a simple evidentiary issue. you can get it in. it shows her state of mind. i think it's great for the prosecution. >> okay. peter odom, how do you plan if you're the defense attorney to keep this out? her hobbies are killing and cutting people. >> well, first of all, we want to see the whole thing. but we can't use this -- >> we want to see everything. not just little snippets that paint her as a bad person. >> be careful what you ask for. you will surely get it. i can't even rep

sue moss, peter odom, daniel horowitz.ession. miranda applies when you are in custody. she was not in custody. she was in her own home. so that's not going to apply here. so do you think she did this to avoid prosecution of her, of herself, peter odom? >> it very well could be, nancy. the authorities are no doubt going to use her confession. they're going to try to get her to cooperate against him. and if he's as abusive as people are talking about, that might just happen. >> okay, guys. i'm hearing in my ear we are going live now to our story on little haleigh cummings. insiders in the investigation and the search now say the little girl is definitely dead. take a listen. >> ronald, do you feel that misty is the key to this investigation? >> no, i don't. i think they're barking up the wrong tree. >> i don't believe you. i think you do suspect your ex-wife, soon to be ex-wife's story -- >> i seen the back door open, and then i go in her room and she's gone. and that's all i know. >> here's the back screen door, the one tha

with me eleanor odom, peter odom, anne bremner. eleanor and peter out of the atlanta jurisdiction. anne bremner high-profile lawyer out of seattle. eleanor, here's the kicker. people think all this money is traded for child prostitutes, for a 5-year-old girl. this mother probably sold her own girl for a hit of crack. come on. >> exactly right, nancy. especially looking at someone with a drug problem. she killed her child. she may not have dealt the final blow, but because she sold her child into prostitution she's responsible for her murder. >> well, obviously, peter odom, felony murder. you commit a felony and a death occurs during that felony, you sell your child to a pimp, your 5-year-old beautiful childo a pimm top get raped and sodomized for money -- >> exactly. >> -- and the child dies, surprise surprise. that's murder. that's felony murder. >> felony murder. >> on that mother. that's it. and in that jurisdiction you can get the death penalty, which in north carolina is lethal injection, the needle, for felony murder. >> nancy, if even a small part of these horrendous allegat

also out of atlanta, defense attorney peter odom.torney renowned in his jurisdiction, alex sanchez. okay. eleanor, give me best-case scenario. as a prosecutor, could i get this into evidence? this 15-year-old girl, if she's going to be treated like an adult, and we learned today that that decision will be held in open court, that's right, we'll be able to get into the courtroom and see what this girl is all about. can i get in the youtube and twitter if i can establish she actually posted it? eleanor? >> yes, you can, nancy. that's a simple evidentiary issue. you can get it in. it shows her state of mind. i think it's great for the prosecution. >> okay. peter odom, how do you plan if you're the defense attorney to keep this out? her hobbies are killing and cutting people. >> well, first of all, we want to see the whole thing, but we can't use this -- >> we want to see everything. not just little snippets that paint her as a bad person. >> be careful what you ask for. you will surely get it. i can't even report it all on air. okay? i'

with me eleanor odom, peter odom, anne bremner. eleanor and peter out of the atlanta jurisdiction. anne bremner high-profile lawyer out of seattle. eleanor, here's the kicker. people think all this money is traded for child prostitutes, for a 5-year-old girl. this mom probably sold her own girl for a hit of crack. >> exactly right, nancy. especially looking at someone with a drug problem. she killed her child. she may not have dealt the final blow, but because she sold her child into prostitution she's responsible for her murder. >> well, obviously, peter odom, felony murder. you commit a felony and a death occurs during that felony, you sell your child to a pimp, your 5-year-old beautiful child to a pimp to get raped and sodomized for money -- >> exactly. >> -- and the child dies, surprise surprise. that's murder. that's felony murder. >> felony murder. >> on that mother. that's it. and in that jurisdiction you can get the death penalty, which in north carolina is lethal injection, the needle, for felony murder. >> nancy, if even a small part of these horrendous allegations prove