eleanor odom, renee rockwell, peter odom. and attorney for tommy croslin joining us tonight out of jacksonville, florida, james werter. first to you, eleanor odom, polygraphs, hypnosis, can they come into court? >> it depends. a polygraph can if there's a stipulation by both the state and the defense -- >> an agreement. >> an agreement. exactly. and then it could come into evidence. but hypnotists and hypnosis, that has not been allowed in courts as of yet. >> and when she says stipulate, renee rockwell, typically the way it's done is that before you take the polygraph you agree, we're going to do a poly, this is who's going to give it, and you don't know the results when you agree up front. are we going to let it come into court. right? >> that's right. but you don't know the results, nancy. i wouldn't let one of my clients take a polygraph unless i had gotten a polygraph previously by a private polygrapher. and i'll remind you of the case, nancy, you and i had together when you were tracking to crack the red rapist case in a

not in the murder, nancy, but certainly some kind of endangerment or neglect. >> peter odom, you say no. >> i say for right now, nancy, we need to step back and identify the victim. this man has the right to due process, just like any other suspect. >> peter, peter, peter, what are you talking about? that's not even the question. every time i ask you a question, you start talking about due process and the constitution. look, we're all lawyers. we've all tried cases, we understand the constitution. guess what, pete? are you a 12-member jury in the correct jurisdiction? no. so there's no way you can possibly convict anybody. >> so let's not do it. let the process take its course and see what happens. it doesn't look good for him, i'll grant you that, nancy. let's just let things -- >> you went to three years of law school to tell me it doesn't look good for him. >> i remember every minute of it. they were all miserable. >> eleanor, let's speak practically. okay. if this is the child's body, we know the mother let the live-in come back into the home after beating the 14-month-old. >> rig

okay, peter odom, i agree with raymond that they can say whatever they want to at trial. they can argue all they want to accident. but given the way the body was found, it's going to be to the jury that they're fishing for a defense. an accident doesn't ring true based on how she was found. if there had been an accident, why the lies? why the deception? >> nancy, we have to step back. >> okay. >> let's assume george made the statement the child's death was only an accint. that's only relevant if the source of his knowledge is casey. if he's speculating along with everybody else, then it's absolutely irrelevant. if his only source of knowledge is just guessing at it, then it's never going to come into evidence. and you know that. >> eleanor, let's help them. peter, don't you see what a big booboo that is that you just said? because if she told her father it was an accident, it admits -- she's admitting she was there when the child died. it's even better if it comes fromer. agree or disagree, eleanor? >> oh, i completely agree. and we all know she was there. how else do you