for war on this, i'm now joined live by ortiz, europe. corresponding peter oliver. peter is the european union engaging in any kind of negotiations with ballers to try to resolve this well, not so much negotiations, but the european union certainly applying pressure on minsk and attempts to try and stop as it sees it. refugees moving from ad belarus over the border into poland and into the european union. here in germany, ministers of pulled absolutely no punches the german foreign minister, high co masses, outright accused alexander lucas shanker, the bell, russian president, old running an illegal migrant transport network. this one is in o'clock we in europe are being confronted with the fact that lucas suncoast using refugees is a tool to put pressure on the european nations. luca suncoast, nothing short of the head of a state. ron smuggling ring with arthur shift in new bill in untrue belarus. stay to organize directly. state supported smuggling activities are taking place. the regime and belarus is now considerably expanded. the list of countries from where peo

let's get more on the story note from our europe correspondent peter oliver. hi peter. the incident are indeed alleged incidents are getting a lot of attention in germany, i believe, tickers through it. right, this all took place on october, the 4th with jill of ferry. and he's a famous thing, a and actor as well. here in germany, he was trying to check in to the hilton hotel in the city of light sake. there was an altercation and he was told he couldn't get access to the hotel unless he put away a star of david that he was wearing on a chain. now that we know about this, because after the incident in question mr. far you went outside, took a video on his phone and wish he which he relate and impassioned version of the events from his viewpoint. here with my chain than someone shouts put his dar david away. he says if i put it away, i can check in with the video was watched by over 3400000 people. a prompted a well protest outside of the hilton hotel in leipzig. hundreds of people coming out to say no to anti semitism. we also saw the 2 employees who were in the, the fr

peter oliver has the story. as berlin embraces electric transportation, these battery powered buses of being traveling along the route $200.00 for just over a year now. taking passengers to such sites as the german capitals loo. however, 3 fires across the country. a depos with electric buses. the most recent and september eng. stuttgart has raised questions about safety. not just of bosses, but all electric vehicles. yeah. absolute yes easy. the risk of these fires include in other locations such as the bicycle basement or large apartment blocks, is completely unaddressed. also, insurance companies are not yet tackling the issue today. it's not regulated, in my opinion, it's not possible to regulate fires in general. so it is likely that debt post electric glasses and the deepest for other bosses will be separated and fire barriers to link the details in between the individual bosses to reduce the risk of europe is experiencing a boom in sales of electric vehicles with manufacturers of them doing a roaring trad

peter oliver aussie pearl. busy and support has a jelly, the sans have held up people's tribunal in london on alleged u. s. war crimes revealed by the wikileaks found it, which then reportedly led to see a plot to kill him. the tribunal was intended, the strength and public backing of the whistleblower head of his u. s. extradition hearing coming up, which spoke to some of his members the point i was making it in a democratic society, security service and the military and the special forces have to be accountable. my whole point is that julian saw in a different country in a different place if we came to a hero. but because you'd be exposing what the us and britain in particular were doing, he's saying to me is somebody that when the history books are written 21st century, julian, this how's his name movie write up somebody that told the truth. there is an irony in the talk to the new so face to change order of the appeal against against the verdict to say that he shouldn't be the type that you've been used to

now to get more on that, i'm joined live by our correspondence, peter oliver. hi there, peter. so what's the reaction been, does the ruling set a precedent or why? well, it's all getting very interesting. it all revolves around the you tube. discussion pro gram alice off then tissue. everything's on the table, all is on the table in english. now, a german court has ruled that videos by this channel should not have been removed from you tube. these were videos in which they challenged at the german government handling of the cove at 19 pandemic. now, this show takes the form of, of a panel discussion program in which artists and actors as well as academics and scientists. ask difficult questions about coven 19 about the government's handling of it, and about all of the different scenarios surrounding the pandemic. now what we've had seen is the german tabloid build. well leap to support of alice alpha. then tish, accusing the youtube platform of censorship. we'll now talk about censorship by you. chill yet within an overly narrow latino cora line and respectfully, little by litt

peter oliver, aussie pearl and supporters of julian sanchez held a people's tribunal in london on alleged us war crimes revealed by the weaklings founder which reportedly led to r c. i a plot to kill him. tribunal was intended to be well strength and public backing of the whistleblower head of his u. s. extra vision hearing and we had a chance to speak with some of its members the point i was making in a democratic society, security service and the military and the special forces have to be accountable. my whole point is that junior is in a different country in a different place. we seems a hero. but because you've been exposing what the us and britain in particular were doing, he's seen as of the pain committee, is somebody that when the history books are written with the 21st century, julian, this sounds his name movie right up with somebody that told the truth there is an irony in the fact that shooting so basically things extradition order and they appeal against against the verdict to say that he should've been taught that the rule that you've been used to move in the following day f

peter oliver, aussie berlin. busy russian and natural gas export, a gas brom, saying now it'll stop supplying the commodity to moldova if that eastern european state fail to fully pay off its debt to the company, which is about 700000000 dollars. no small amount of money. they're less bringing out. he's broadcast if not to give us details on this. how, how did this even get started in the 1st placement out? well previously, moldova had a long running a contract with gas problem where they received gas at a d counted rates for many years. and over that period, they didn't make the payments necessary on time. and eventually they have amassed this, the huge debt for $133000000.00. and then you have to count all the fees and fines for late payments. an outstanding debt which runs up to $700000000.00. the contract itself expired at some time ago in the last hours before the contract expired. a gas problem will dover agreed to extend that, that contract by a month, but by december 1st, they're gonna have to come up wit

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energy crunch with households facing soaring costs over the winter season or europe correspond, peter oliver joined us live now in the program to tell us more about her. peter, indeed it's not winter issue, isn't it just around the corner? this is not the news. people perhaps, already struggling with kobe and financial hardships wanted to hear not at all because what you're going to have is, while prices are as high as they are on the commodities markets, this isn't so much going to trickle down to consumers as perhaps these prices are gonna fall upon homeowners from a more domestic home uses form a great height. what we've heard from the european commission president ursula found a lion is that she recognizes that there are major problems that, that we're facing right now. and problems that are coming down the pipe further along, but says that in the long term, it's renewable energies that are going to keep energy prices low across europe. i think we have to be very clear that the gas prices are skyrocketing and her that the renewables of the prices have decreased over the last years and ou

as peter oliver now reports, politicians from the ruling law and justice party in poland, talking about the country's future in sight, the european union. some even suggesting the potential of a pox. it time for an honest assessment, whether the british path is better for poland. poland thought the german occupies in the 2nd world war it fought the soviets occupiers. we will also fight the brussels occupies with warsaw and brussels bumping heads over rule of law in poland . the polish constitutional court may well be set this week to rule that it's domestic law, supersedes that of the european union. the problem for the firebrands and polish prime minister mateusz moreover skis party is that while saber rattling about the country's willingness to remain in the e. you may send out the message they want. it doesn't strike a popular court with the polish people. almost 90 percent of those polled. busy said that they are in favor of you. membership supports risen steadily over the last 18 years. poland has the lowest levels of unemployment in the e u. it's the 3rd most attractive member sta

what you wish for than any shining example of sunlit uplands. upon leaving the european union, peter oliver r. t. berlin. hundredths of thousands of children have been abused by catholic clergymen in france since the 1950s. that is the claim of a report just released by an independent commission and described a culture of, quote, cruel indifference within the church to what was a systemic problem. charlotte davinsky reports from pars this report rocking the foundations of the catholic church here in france. this is just the latest scandal to hit the church world wide, but showing the decks of depravity of those who were in positions of authority and positions of trust. let's have a look at some of the main points now in that report some 3000 p to files uncovered, acting within the french church since 1950. and that is said to be a minimum estimate, some $330000.00 children who are abused by those who are affiliated with the church includes priests and the clergy. 80 percent of the victims were boys between the ages of 10 to 13, the head of the commission of that independent report said that

let's cross indeed, if we can to a, europe, correspondent, peter oliver and peter, very little information it appears, filtering through at this stage, what do we know about what occurred to day? right, well this is all come to light following though shocking images of police enfold special weapons and tactics, uniforms with large, long barreled rifles on the roof, tops of buildings that have come out of the the town of wareham nuts to the southwest of the city of kent just a bit north from the border between belgium and france. what we understand happened is that in the early on air thursday morning between 8 and 9 am. in fact, the police were alerted after a suspicious scenes took place basically ad people on a bus. and going to a school in the nearby area made reports of a man, they described as acting suspiciously. some report suggested he had a firearm and they're also saying in no way was he a student. now the search has been going on to try and track this person down. police are wanting to speak to around 4000 students from that education establishment. were evacuated from the premi

a scheme is a threat to its rule of law getting the full story here with our correspondent now peter oliver. it's a major escalation in that ongoing dispute over rule of law between brussels and war saw it comes after poland. top court ruled that the polish constitution supersedes a you law. now the european court of justice is said until that ruling is overturned . poland is going to face a 1000000 euro fine every single day. the vice president recalls that a member's state cannot plead provisions practices, or situations prevailing in its domestic legal order to justify failure to observe obligations arising under a you law. it appears necessary to strengthen the effectiveness of the interim measures by providing for the imposition of a periodic penalty payment on poland in order to deter that member state from delaying bringing its conduct into line with that order. the reason that the e, c, j has gone in so hard on poland is what the ruling from the constitutional tribunal in warsaw at risked. basically, they're concerned, it puts the, the whole nature of the european union's unified ru

peter oliver aussie pearl. busy and are thus the news cost of his off how he lie for moscow on our to international. thank you so much for spending yourself some of your time with us here at the russian capital. my colleague collin bray here, the desk the top of the hour with more of your saturday evening stories. hopefully . you can join collin with ah, dallas fs. let myself on it. lucky. no arms. i said, i'm unable to respond as what he does better than i thought it would be now. now, most of it is under the lawful, but i didn't come again. uh huh. this was there. no, but i found a boy yet enough. and then my mom was on that, but in all the non stop it other we ended up awesome. i love it. and i'm it's leslie to seattle and discriminant music. and when he stumble, get open to me. she lives with me. nancy melissa, i want to be talking to them, so i'm working on the spending money yet, and it was like this young you're not the one the youngest down. gosh, i wish i would he say one. yeah, boy, lot middle thought

europe correspondent peter oliver on this wednesday afternoon. peter a 1000000 euros a day. that's quite a price to pay for. stepping out of the e use line and he reaction from poland so far certainly there is. we'll get to that in just a moment though, whichever way you slice this, it's a major escalation in not ongoing dispute over rule of law between brussels and war saw it comes after poland, top court ruled that the polish constitution supersedes a you law. now the european court of justice is said until that ruling is overturned, poland gonna face a 1000000 euro fine every single day. the vice president recalls that a member state cannot plead provisions practices or situations prevailing in its domestic legal order to justify failure to observe obligations arising under e you law. it appears necessary to strengthen the effectiveness of the interim measures by providing for the imposition of a periodic penalty payment on poland in order to deter that member state from delaying bringing its conduct into line with that order. while the reason that the e c, j has gone in

all right, let's get a bit more on the story now. crossing live to europe correspondent, peter oliver in berlin. can you bring this up to date now, peter, on these claims against russia, and ultimately, how are the politicians reacting well, while russia maintains that it's not behind the soaring gas prices, we seeing here in europe, the media here in europe as well as elsewhere, pitching a very different message, in fact, the most recent front cover of the very respected news magazine focus has brought me a food and on the front cover of it with the headline, the cold war in this sense. so in german, that means the cold war not is in the latter part of the 20th century, but the cold war was in freezing. the sub headline though, it says that blood of me and turns off the top and drives ope the energy prices across germany. it's pretty much a similar message that we're seeing across europe in the netherlands headlines. they're saying pretty much the same thing over outlets in germany as well. pitching that same type of narrative while in belgium, what we are seeing is them saying that

claims that are being made against him, but he will no longer be leading the country correspondent peter oliver with fair, with that one for us. thank you. the problems continued to mount for crisis at lebanon, the countries now. so for the total power outage after the 2 biggest power stations, i ran out of feel local journalist linda tommy takes us through the latest developments. nothing is improving. the economic situation is still spiraling downwards. on the power situation and lebanon, the fuel crisis keeps getting worse. and now it's true that cues in front of gas stations have significantly decreased, but now with a shortage of fuel that we are facing nowadays, this is quite, i mean, it could, it could resume. i mean, those cues in front of gas stations could definitely resume at any moment. this is what every single citizen in this country is fearing. but even worse than this, power outages are looming and the rise and we're talking about a complete blackouts in the country. we know that some villages in lebanon have completely plunged into total darkness with no electricity at all, but

his artes peter oliver. there are shots fired in that confrontation between warsaw and brussels and the constitutional tribunal. poland talk court is basically said that the polish constitution has precedence over you law in the country. the primacy of constitutional law over other sources of law, results directly from the constitution of the republic of poland. this has been clearly confirmed by the constitutional tribunal. it's very important to point out the polish prime minister mathias more of it. he says this isn't a sign that poland is about to try and leave the european union. in fact, he says his country has no intention of doing just that. but we are hearing again things that sound like breaks at room break that cost to do. it hasn't gone anywhere yet. well, now we're hearing about politics. it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but it is what it is. in fact, here in germany, the press is fullest morning of talk about this being a legal polk said that poland has essentially, by making this ruling

that's amid a massive influx of migrants crossing into the you from neighboring belarus or cheese peter oliver. as more of the story, the european union is placing mounting pressure on minsk over refugees looking to enter the e u via bella ruth. now the german foreign minister has been among a group of, of senior german politicians that have pulled absolutely no punches whatsoever in their comments. hi, co must. the foreign minister has accused alexander lucas shanker, our rights of running an illegal migrant transport network. visit on center will park we in europe are being confronted with the fact that lucas suncoast using refugees is a tool to put pressure on european nations. look, a suncoast, nothing short of the head of a state run smuggling rain professorship in new bill in and through belarus, state organized early, state supported smuggling activities are taking place. the regime in belarus is now considerably expanded. the list of countries from where people can enter without a visa, that's a form of hybrid threats, where my grants are being used as a political weapon horse they off

you're sorry. europe correspondent peter oliver. this all started back on the 4th of october, when musician and sometime act at jill a fairy m tried to check into the hilton hotel in the german city of leipzig. now he says he was told he couldn't get in to the hotel. he couldn't check in, and he had to put away a star of david that he had hanging around his neck. we know about this because after the incident in question, mister a foreign went outside, took a video on his phone, in which he relate an impassioned version of the events. from his viewpoint. you see him money. i'm standing here with my chain than someone shouts, put his star david away. he says if i put it away, i can check my letter. i can't emphasize just how big this story was in the media here in germany. we saw well over 3400000 people watched the video that mr. afar, him posted on social media. in fact, the night after he did that, there was a, a protest outside of the hotel. hundreds of people coming out to say no to anti semitism. we even had the german foreign m

to stifle such a public debate about the pandemic and also related vaccination issues. parties, peter oliver explains more about this case, also similar ones and how much the media's reaction has varied. door revolves around the youtube discussion program. alice often tissue. everything's on the table, all is on the table in english. now, a german court has ruled that videos by this channel should not have been removed from youtube. these were videos in which they challenged at the german government's handling of the cove at 19 pandemic. now, this show takes the form of, of a panel discussion program in which artists and actors as well as academics and scientists ask difficult questions about covey. 19 about the government's handling of it and about all of the different scenarios surrounding the pandemic. now what we've had seen is the german tabloid build. well leap to support of alice out. then tish, accusing the you tube platform of censorship. will now talk about sensor. so by youtube, yet using an assembly, i routine in current line respect, color door, apply. i knew during the panorami

there thanks very much figure suzan atara tease your correspondent peter oliver humiliation. on the brink of sadism, nancy moscow has bloss had washington's moved to classify russian seeking us immigration visa is as homeless nationals. yes, diplomats tend to procedure travail for the 21st century into a house based on humiliation. on the brink of fantasy, russia was added to washington, his list of homeless visa applicants alongside countries like our rum libby and somalia. that happens when a nation has no consular representation, or when the political situation is deemed uncertain by the us. russians will now after travel to poland, to apply for an american immigration visa. it comes after numerous tit for tat moves, including the mutual expulsion of diplomats, the u. s. expanding its sanctions on russia and moscow bombing, the american embassy from hiring locals commenting to our t. the u. s. department of state said russia has no one to blame, but it, so the russian government's decision to prohibit the united states from retaining hiring or contracting russian or 3rd co

as peter oliver now reports, the october school holidays here in germany, we're always going to be the 1st real test for berlin's beleaguered view. apple not gone great. the new b r is a stunner. dear to hand in your luggage the evening before your flight and then turn up for hours in advance for the flight. you might as well go by car to leipzig and fly from there on time capital city airport. can it get even worse at the b r, the b e r airport is sinking into chaos. and now it is also at risk of insolvency without state aid, the airport is hardly viable. avoid b r and take another airport just because they stand on staff. the guests are having to turn up at the airport for hours in advance, and that with children, passengers being advised to arrive 4 hours before their flights as a mixture of covey restrictions, and staff shortages bite, g to increase passenger volume at the start of the holiday season we expect long awaits at jackins and security control at berlin brandenburg airport. for this reason, we would like to ask you to be at the airport at least 240 minutes before departur

climate change about which some say that not doing anywhere near enough or europe corresponded peter oliver is in the italian capital. as world leaders gather here in rome for this years g 20 summit. they've also been met by a large number of protestors who've come to particularly vent their anger at what they see as a lack of action when it comes to climate change. the protesters themself actually coming from quite a diverse number of groups, including unions, fall left organizations and those who say they've lost their jobs through globalism . also a large number of climate activists that you would recognize as such to p in particular of drawn their iron. that's the u. s. president joe biden. and the british prime minister, forrest johnson, president biden. because well, he's had a lot to say about the need for action to be taken, but the hasn't been that much in the way of climate action coming from the white house as of yet forest johnson. because starting on sunday glass go in the united kingdom will be hosting cop $26.00. the big climate summit with a lot of attention focusing. they'r

peter oliver has been following developments in rome, whether its being progress or whether this has been a token shop, depends on who you speak to. if you talk to those demonstrators who are on the streets of the italian capital on saturday afternoon into the the evening, they would say that more definitive action needs to be taken on climate change, as opposed to the talking that's been done about tackling that particular problem. you speak to the leaders themselves, so i think they're pretty happy with what safina chief, this g 20. they were all gathered for a, a big photo op at the trevi fountain earlier on sunday, throwing coins over their shoulder into that famous landmark, hoping that that brings some looked to one particular area in which they have made a, as few steps forward. and that is on a, a global minimum level of corporation tax. now this was an initiative that was put forward by the united states am if you listen to those who are giving the full backing to the u. s. president on to joe biden, himself on from joe biden himself, of course, we've heard it hailed as a re

peter oliver, aussie berlin, supporters of gillian assange have held a people's tribunal in london on alleged us war crimes revealed by the wicked expand, which reportedly led to a c. i a plot to kill him. the tribunal was intended to strengthen public backing of the will. sublime ahead of his us expedition hearing we spoke to some of his members on the point i was making it in a democratic society, security services and the military and the special forces have to be accountable. my whole point is julian challenge in a different country. in a different place we seems a hero. but because he was exposing what the us and britain in particular were doing, he seems of pain to me as somebody that when the history books are written, the 21st century during the song, his name will be right up with somebody that told the truth. there is an irony in the fact that she didn't himself faced with extradition or the appeal against against the verdict. i need to say that he shouldn't be expedited the type of the law that you seem to exciting is that we've developed a lot have any se cornerstone or pe

to say these details is coming in a corresponding just getting across it to your correspondent peter oliver paint, so i believe it's green light, but not quite funneled string to what you got. yes, exactly, we're not quite there yet, but this is a step along the way to this gas pipeline eventually being up and running. what has happened is the danish energy agency has given its rubber stamp to the 1st string of the node stream to gas pipeline ad. that means that it is undergone air pre commissioning. it's also bad, it's number of tests carried out on it, and it's passed those tests in the eyes of the danish energy agency. there's still some way to go yet, though, before the pipeline will be open running to its fullest extent. the 2 strings were tied together in the summer of last this year. it was of course, much delay due to sanctions and everything that came with that at all of the political wranglings they are now in the past. it would seem as we're into this stage of going through the compliance institute, if occasion for the infrastructure project. and ultimately once the 2 strings hav

peter oliver has the detox or hi drama, in austria on saturday evening, survosity and courts standing down. as the austrian chancellor. it's a meds of allegations that have been made against him, of having embezzled public funds and, and that money being used to pay bribes to journalists and pollsters during his assent to power. now mister could denies all of the allegations that have been leveled against him. he stepped down from this position as chancellor, but will remain as the leader of the austrian people's party. now, it looks most likely that the foreign minister of austria, alexander schellenberg, will be promoted to chancellor. in the wake of sebastian court stepping down, his name has been put to the president of austria, will be up to him to decide if mister schellenberg gets the nod to become the at the next chancellor sebastian courts and putting forwards, alexander schellenberg named said he was the right person to unite the parties in the current ruling coalition to try and keep some semblance of normalcy on going in austria's leadership right now. now sebastian curse,

or else go without pay or europe correspondent peter oliver saw one such march take place in rome. he sent us this report afterwards. it's lee has become the latest country to see it. citizens upset about the introduction of coven 19 vaccine passports, the the e. u. green pass, a digital certificate that allows you to show that you've received a vaccination to is commonplace across the whole of the european union. however, in italy, they're looking to use it to a stronger degree than it is being used elsewhere. and that's why on friday we saw demonstrations in 9 different cities across italy, the largest of those demonstrations was interested in the northeast of the country . we can have a look at what was going on there right now. for fiesta phone, we're here to protest against the green pass for workers. would think that the green pass is an unlawful tool, an improper one that should not be forced to from the workers because it is discriminatory. so we are demonstrating against the government agreed on. i'll talk to dell constitution as being trampled on what is happening today,

soaring course over the winter season. less crossed now to germany and our europe corresponding peter oliver to fill in more on this for as peter, quite an alarming situation. i would suggest for european consumers now, and there's already some accusations flying around. can you break it all down for us? yes. what we're seeing is the highest prices for gas on the commodity market that we've seen in europe. in fact, the european commission, m, r, ringing the alarm bell. se european commissioner for energy cadre. since and, and it has said that prices may well continue to rise over the winter. in fact, she said just how high those prices rise may come down to something is fickle, is just how bad the weather is over the coming winter months. if it's particularly cold, could see things get a lot higher when it comes to that. a price of gas on the commodity markets that we're already seeing. now, what this is done is it's prompted countries as well. france, spain grease, the czech republic, and romania prompted their finance ministers to put out a joint statement saying that europe and the europe

doing for some time with a political talk at home focused on green energy or europe correspondent peter oliver reports. the cost of living in germany is on the rise. it's clear when you go to the supermarket and see the prices a fruit vege. it's even clearer when you go onto the full course of paint chill stations. and what we're seeing really is the unstoppable force of rising fuel. prices colliding with the immovable object that is german reliance on the automobile. it's prompted. some german motorists to cross national boundaries like coming here to poland in order to try and find a cheaper alternative to filling up. driving across the border, just refuel is particularly worthwhile. if the price difference is a high and the distances are very short, germany has some of the highest fuel prices in the european union. and to break down this whole situation into its most basic form, if you wish to fill up a full tank of fuel on the side of the river odor in germany, it would cost you around 25 years more than if you were to philip here. in poland, i spoke to some people who made that journey fr

peter oliver reports on his way to europe for the series of meetings that he has. u. s. president joe biden was asked, will you be apologizing to french president emanuel mccall and he did say, well, we've already talked about that, suggesting that perhaps being done in the over the phone conversations. this was the 1st face to face meeting. and what we heard from joe biden was that the united states, in his opinion, had acted without grace when it came to squeezing fronts out of a submarine, deal with australia we deemed was clumsy with a lot of grace. i was under the impression that france happened to form long before that was not going into my arms not go me things conducted in a real badness, fear of reconciliation between paris in washington, bitin and micron. and what we did see was that it will moment between the 2 when they they were shaking hands and lots of thank you. so don't thank use from the 2 presidents related. mm hm. you were oh, thank you. well, all of the awkwardness came about because, oh orcus, that's the, the defense packed that was set up betwee