. >> i think we have won a vintage right now in seeking this and that is peter orzag for the last several years, when he was head of the congressional budget office and now has identified as a health -- and identified health care as the number one culprit in economic growth. having him there makes some difference read exactly what difference that will make on funding wellness programs and preventative programs is anyone's guess. >> the cautionary note on the other side, you look at scoring and the c.b.o, just to say something we had the beginning, just how little is understood by the public. preventive wellness care, people knew those extensively in it did not have to be persuaded a bottom. they already believed there were good things. a lot of the good terms that you in this year room use of the time -- you in this room is all the time, is not that they're not understood, but they're completely misunderstood. we were in focus groups last summer and testing terms like single payer. people would say i hate single pair. i would pay my insurance company and they keep the money. we stopped as

i see peter orzag is here. it's true. i'm very heartened too. i'm so happy someone gave me this article to read. man, this is a great article. and it turned out the president read it, too, about the same time and independently came to the same conclusion. and i got to tell you it's the rage among senators, it's the june 1 issue. is he here. >> we'll hear about it in just a minute. >> it's not perfect. nothing is perfect but man oh, man we're moving in the right direction. and i'm very confident because of the basic understanding of the good will of the members of the house and senate that we're going to get healthcare reform passed this year. it's going to take work because it's complicated. it's really complicated. people don't understand it. we're also going to have to educate the american people. you know, that's what we work for. they are our employers. they are our bosses and that's going to take a lot of work, too. i remember talking to bill navelli formerly head of aarp. his membership just doesn't quite understand all what's going on her