and now more on the world of political books with peter osnos founder of public affairs books. well, mr. osnos, you have been in book publishing for 40 years, but prior to that. you're a journalist for many years. how did you make that transition? well, i'd reached the point where i thought i had sort of fulfilled whatever plan i could have in journalism. in the sense that i've been a foreign correspondent a variety of places. i've been an editor and the president chairman of random house said, you know journalism is really not a fit profession for growing and if you ever get serious, call me. so i did and they found a position for me is a senior editor at random house, which was obviously a great place to go and so i sort of made a lateral move. out of the washington post into being a first book editor and eventually a book publisher. so it was a mid-career move. i brought with me all the experience. i had in journalism, which turned out to be very valuable and connections. so i i know one of the last thing i realized almost as soon as i got there that the difference is in the

and now more on the world of political books with peter osnos founder of public affairs books.l, mr. osnos, you have been in book publishing for 40 years, but prior to that. you're a journalist for many years. how did you make that transition? well, i'd reached the point where i thought i had sort of fulfilled whatever plan i could have in journalism. in the sense that i've been a foreign correspondent a variety of places. i've been an editor and the president chairman of random house said, you know journalism is really not a fit profession for growing and if you ever get serious, call me. so i did and they found a position for me is a senior editor at random house, which was obviously a great place to go and so i sort of made a lateral move. out of the washington post into being a first book editor and eventually a book publisher. so it was a mid-career move. i brought with me all the experience. i had in journalism, which turned out to be very valuable and connections. so i i know one of the last thing i realized almost as soon as i got there that the difference is in the new

they will be joined by the editor of the book our dear friend and the amazing peter. osnos whose career. from the washington post who founding public affairs in 1997, which has gone on. to to become the publishing house for the most amazing array of authors and if you haven't read all of it, you must you can borrow it. but peter should wouldn't have me say you can also buy them. and he and on so delighted that susan is with us tonight susan ostas. the book or all of these are old dear friends and all standard bears of crucial now threatened values. of open society the book itself is available for purchase right outside this all right there right outside the room as well as in our library shop and you are again, of course, welcome to borrow it. i also want to acknowledge the continuing generosity for these programs from this from celeste bartos. manas is bohani bartos and adam bartos. we're making live from nypl possible. and of course the stavros niercros foundation for their generous support. of the amazing space that you are currently sitting in. at the end of our convers