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peter edwards . still to come, peter edwards. still to come, each sunday at five, i'm joined by celebrity, former or by a celebrity, a former or someone extremely someone who's have extremely interesting career. take a look at life after the trough. we talk lows learned and talk highs, lows learned and what comes next on the outside today ? well, my guest is world today? well, my guest is world famous. she's an author. she's published 22 novels and sold over 4 million copies of her books in the uk. her over 4 million copies of her books in the uk . her novels books in the uk. her novels focus on the issues of love, parenting and fidelity . and one parenting and fidelity. and one of the books is entitled just my luck. of the books is entitled just my luck . i'll be generous. of the books is entitled just my luck. i'll be generous. i'll give you one final clue. she was awarded mba for her services to literature and she'll be live in the studio in a moment's time. who is she? do you think so? the message of the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it time to stop penalising aspiration education the aspiration education that the government have announced it has no plans to open a new grammar school despite a large of school despite a large number of backbench mp who have that backbench mp who have said that they want to overturn the ban on them and put them back in place . that is labour leader, sir . that is the labour leader, sir starmer proposed to places vat on tuition fees , with critics on tuition fees, with critics claiming the super rich would have access to private schools. so is it time to stop aspiration in education some of your thoughts, email me. tv views gbnews.uk or tweet me at . thoughts, email me. tv views gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb news. that's now it's time for this week's out sunlight. now, today, my special guest is an award winning who is a no no ? award winning who is a no no? adele fox that most notably she wrote books entitled the books entitled lies lies . and both of entitled lies lies. and both of you, adele parks, has an impressive collection of 22 published novels with a total of 4 million uk copies being sold from our humble beginnings in teesside to living in botswana, adele's has led her to many adventures , even earning her an adventures, even earning her an mba from the late queen, adele is also the ambassador for numerous charities that promote literature in the uk her latest book one last secret was released earlier this year receiving . glowing reviews adele receiving. glowing reviews adele has released 22 books in 22 years and she sang showing no of slowing down. i'm pleased to say . adele parks joins me live in studio. adele hello. that was quite the intro well, it was i said adele and you said hello like the others felt very good . like the others felt very good. that's all i can do. i can't sing a lot i love to read . so sing a lot i love to read. so adele, talk to me about what it was that inspired you to start books. what you just well , you books. what you just well, you always go to english. you are natural writer. i'm a librarian actually suggested it to me . i actually suggested it to me. i loved going to the library . actually suggested it to me. i loved going to the library. i'm the younger two sisters. so, you know , the lot of a younger child know, the lot of a younger child is waiting around for the old one. so my used said wait in the library and read lots of books in the library. and one day said to me, do you? you might become an author and, wouldn't you know? we're from teesside. we didn't anyone who's publisher, i always say first author i ever met was myself. and that's absolutely true . in those days absolutely true. in those days there wasn't sort of, you know onune there wasn't sort of, you know online interaction with authors. there wasn't events in the same . so it seemed quite but to my parents credit, nobody said that's ridiculous they all sort of said, oh, that's lovely . of said, oh, that's lovely. don't think they really thought it would happen , but i don't it would happen, but i don't think they thought it was impossible english impossible. i loved english i read lots of books . i went to a read lots of books. i went to a local local state school, a local local state school, a local comp , brilliant, brilliant local comp, brilliant, brilliant state. and i was encouraged, went to english university and eventually into the ten years after that became a writer. wow. so you're your first book, then you became a writer. did you just become a writer and start writing books or did you do you write in newspapers ? no, more or write in newspapers? no, more or less. i mean, i the first thing i wrote was my novel that got published. so which book was that your first playing way? and i always get the ten word pitch. it's anna karenina meets bridget jones, but gets to live, which is spoiler. if you haven't read that, you've run into ruined it and. but the idea was i wasn't saying i tolstoy obviously but bridget jones was massive at the time , very much about sort of time, very much about sort of a single waiting for mr. right. i wanted to talk about. okay not being a single woman, being a relationship and all the trickiness can come with that. so i this novel, i'm some research pitched it to an agent that i'd never met but i had had read about and it got accepted. wow accepted by actually your first first novel, first pitch. and it got accepted by six publishing houses. wow so you really lucky . right. could it be really lucky. right. could it be lucky? i i, it was fun and it was , know, it was a bit escapism was, know, it was a bit escapism , really sexy. so think yes. i hadnt , really sexy. so think yes. i hadn't read that yet. very, very sorry . yeah, i'm less free now. sorry. yeah, i'm less free now. i think that said one secret. the last one is about a sex worker . so maybe the last one is about a sex worker. so maybe i'm more rude or don't know . worker. so maybe i'm more rude or don't know. but worker. so maybe i'm more rude or don't know . but anyway. yes or don't know. but anyway. yes definitely a theme word to this very thing . writing a book like very thing. writing a book like that that must be quite well. is it difficult to write ? well, one it difficult to write? well, one last secret i honest. so that's a that's a psychological thriller and 22 books and 22 years. the biggest thrill for me when i'm writing is learning about something new. so researching, you know a profession and it might be police or it could be a an illness or something but you research something new and this i wanted the book to be narrated by a sex worker and all my friends were laughing and oh, you know, you always shadow the jobs you are going to write but you try doing this job well, you know, something to do . no, i know, something to do. no, i didn't say that. i i went and interviewed sex workers because, you know, was it's job. it's a job like any otherjob except it job like any other job except it isn't like any other job job like any other job except it isn't like any otherjob because you're constantly under threat. you're constantly dealing with horrific prejudice . and i and horrific prejudice. and i and it's not going anywhere. and one gives any empathy or support. so it's kind of silenced. and i just thought was something to be said . when i met, i met three said. when i met, i met three women to discuss the plots, and i wanted to talk to about how they stay safe, how they stay sane. what's the process so that the book could be realistic , the book could be realistic, even though obviously it's a thriller and it's twists and turns that, you know, these haven't encountered. but i them fascinating very in trusting. so the book is more focussed on the sort of psychological development. the women than actually what goes on in the bedroom. in fact, i kind of didn't write about that much because kind of everyone knows what goes on in bedroom nobody knows what goes in people's heads more heads and that's more interesting not to it was interesting not to say. it was a fabulous book i i'm going to have a chat about all your books if you could. when i was young, i to love sidney sheldon. i used to love sidney sheldon. yes, and is favourite yes, and love is my favourite master game. that's a master of the game. that's a fabulous . when you were fabulous book. when you were young, what were your young, what what were your favourite who all are favourite books? who all are your authors and if your favourite authors and if your favourite authors and if you could liken your style to also, there one that you also, is there one that you would say were like ? so would say you were like? so because now write psychological thrillers, i sort of would . so thrillers, i sort of would. so i've of genres , done i've done lots of genres, done historical family dramas, all of things. so my style definitely changed changes, although i think sort of the honesty of the characters doesn't so plots , characters doesn't so plots, genre does, but of me is always i'm in the books and my style always in the books. so it's very difficult to say, oh, i'm not, you're not you . yeah, i not, you're not you. yeah, i might use . but there are might use. but there are definitely authors i admire. i lucy foley's work , lisa jules lucy foley's work, lisa jules work, sally hepworth as work and they're all other psychological thriller or thriller writer in the past , thriller or thriller writer in the past, when i was a young girl, i remember reading things like julie cooper, i loved tilly because she cooper, she was so entertaining . good. so much fun, entertaining. good. so much fun, so good and i have had the great j'oy so good and i have had the great joy of her several times . so joy of her several times. so i for entertainment and i write to entertain . you mentioned all the entertain. you mentioned all the charities work with writing is , charities work with writing is, you know, obviously it's educational, but also increases our empathy and it us understanding of the world and so you know entertainment empathy education's got it all going on. you've got all these like in easy words. do you you've been doing this so you've got one book every year so far. has that been your aim? was that the plan or was it just come out that way? it just comes out that way. very early on, my of my way. very early on, my one of my first said to me, oh, first editors said to me, oh, you to become person. you need to become that person. people on their summer people look for on their summer holidays. take people look for on their summer holidaand take people look for on their summer holidaand i take people look for on their summer holidaand i thought, take people look for on their summer holidaand i thought, oh, take people look for on their summer holidaand i thought, oh, okay, away. and i thought, oh, okay, because i mentioned i didn't even have a clue. so even that tiny just took tiny bit of advice i just took and run with it. my son's 22 as well. i've had like book. well. so i've had like one book. yeah sometimes how yeah so i sometimes think how many how old is many have i written? how old is my that's how my kid? and then that's how i worked out. but all of them , i worked out. but all of them, i mean, i've been really lucky. they've all been top ten bestsellers and because of that, there's, no reason be there's, there's no reason be put off. there's what i keep going, i love it. i enjoy it what else would i do? i wouldn't get up. like that's get up. i like busy. that's great. and obviously very great. and you're obviously very good because you've good at it because you've got an mba that's the mba. yes. that's why the services to, literature the services to, literature and the new year list 2022. new year honours list 2022. yeah. when do you get that? yeah. so when do you get that? what happens when did you, you didn't meet the queen no. know very but very happily i very sadly but very happily i did . king charles, the third. did. king charles, the third. and it was in his very first investiture, which was to just weeks ago. but i was in queen's new year's honours list. i nearly missed because they sent an email which can i say, you expect like really smart letter with a seal or perhaps a carrier pigeon, something note? no, they sent me an email and i honestly thought it was spam because i thought it was spam because i thought who would be nominating for an mba? no. so i deleted twice and then eventually my agent rang and said you've got to respond one way or the other, even you don't taking it. and they oh, i'll take you they say, oh, i'll take you walk. and then he said, the mba. i i'll have that thank you i think i'll have that thank you very much . so a real delight very much. so a real delight really . i mean, a colossal really. i mean, a colossal honour , totally unexpected . and honour, totally unexpected. and yes, i was at windsor palace just weeks ago and it was wow. king charles. he seemed lovely . king charles. he seemed lovely. he is lovely. he's really nice , he is lovely. he's really nice, really nice. very, very interested , sort of slightly interested, sort of slightly overrun because he gave everybody the attention and kindness conversation , laughed a kindness conversation, laughed a lot, very also incredibly interested. he he, you know , he interested. he he, you know, he interviewed me, asked about he asked about i get my ideas from he asked the things that people want to know from authors. i didn't feel rushed felt he wanted me there it great when did they give you lunch what do they do they don't give you the hang about for a bit you chat and then you through the palace through very building rooms , through very building rooms, much to my amazement is my mom and my dad and my son is three tickets allowed my bless his heart said you can't between your parents you have to take them both and my son was desperate to go so it was the three of them and i was sort making jokes and saying, oh look that picture got that on a jigsaw. i've got that in a tea towel. but i mean, the art. amazing. so whilst you're waiting , it's very interesting waiting, it's very interesting and you're waiting with other people who've got me, all of whom are fascinating . so there's whom are fascinating. so there's a lot of people to chat to. then you have the ceremony, which is sort of individual family watches quite close. was watched from close on and then you go off and have your photo and. then we went as a family for lunch. that's not with my husband we invited him to that but was just as well. congratulations thank you and well—deserved with all the books . you're so your latest book then it's out now already it's out now. it's hardback but on it comes out as paperback just in time for christmas. nice little stocking . our office and so stocking. our office and so that's one of the most wonderful what was really good to talk to you and you touched on some some charity work that you do tell us briefly about national literacy . sorry, national literacy trust and the reading agencies are the two ambassadors, all and both of them work mostly in the uk . to them work mostly in the uk. to encourage reading and the joy of across all age groups . both of across all age groups. both of them have got websites worth out because they each have schemes to. so here's some examples to look . i'm to. so here's some examples to look. i'm getting homeless people to be reading to get mums with newborn babies that are in incubator to read to their babies . so incubator to read to their babies. so from one extreme to the other , there are different the other, there are different schemes to encourage reading depending on your mindset, your age your social background , and age your social background, and they're just very accessible , they're just very accessible, very interesting. so yeah , go very interesting. so yeah, go look at both of the websites. there's much to say about both of them. i don't know where to start. okay, great. i could come back and talk to you about half an and just those an hour and just on those websites, the people websites, i what are the people doing? the national doing? yes. the national literacy the reading literacy trust and the reading agency and literacy trust and the reading agerit's and literacy trust and the reading agerit's so and literacy trust and the reading agerit's so good and literacy trust and the reading agerit's so good to and literacy trust and the reading agerit's so good to to and that it's so good to talk to you.so that it's so good to talk to you. so good. it's such a pleasure to meet you. thank you so thank very so much for. thank you very much. the fabulous much. that is the fabulous author, parks, award author, adele parks, award winning author parks winning author adele parks and the e! i might add. thank you . the e! i might add. thank you. this is gb news coming up. it is a great british debate this i'm asking, is it time stop penalising aspiration in education. now the government announced that it has no plans to open new grammar schools despite a large number of backbench tory mp . does he want backbench tory mp. does he want to lift the ban them in many of the moves properly benefit from them and that is just labour leader sir keir starmer opposed to of that on tuition fees to place of that on tuition fees , which critics are claiming will affect only the super rich who will still have access to private . but is that actually private. but is that actually fair seeing as many of those who wish to do also had the benefit of schools that is will come out of schools that is will come out of . this is diabetes is 22 minutes after 5:00 if you just told me welcome on board we are the people's channel. i'm not a square and. it is time for our great british debate this hour i'm asking, is it time to stop penalising aspiration in education now the labour party has been accused causing a class war after it revealed that it scrapped tax breaks for private schools. if government that are why they want do that, it seems ridiculous. the mail reported that labour's plan to charge that labour's plan to charge that all school fees mean that it forces closures of around about 200 schools despite party saying the policy would raise more than £1 billion which would be used to support the state sector . but it be used to support the state sector. but it is be used to support the state sector . but it is that it's be used to support the state sector. but it is that it's one rule for socialists and one rule for everyone else . best buddies, for everyone else. best buddies, not keir starmer and jeremy corbyn went to private schools . corbyn went to private schools. tony blair, another former labour leader, also attended private school and diana , who's private school and diana, who's preached about abolishing private schools, sent her own son to one. there's nothing like being a hypocrite, is there ? on being a hypocrite, is there? on the other hand, the tory backbenchers are trying to pressurise the frontbench into reversing the ban on grammar schools. mp jonathan nicholas asked to educate the department what assessment and be made of the potential merits of removing legislative restrictions on the establishment of new grammar. the schools minister, nick gibbs says as many children as possible should have access to outstanding education, which some see ex—ministers did because , according to the sutton because, according to the sutton trust , 65% of his cabinet went trust, 65% of his cabinet went to independent fee paying schools and only 23% went to compare. hence it's so for the british debate this i'm asking it time to stop penalising in education i'm joined now by education i'm joined now by education commentator editor in chief of the good schools guide lord ralph lucas . thank you so lord ralph lucas. thank you so much persuading the duke now if we look at this whole idea, do you really believe that up to 200 schools were closed as a result of the 20% of that rate being placed on schools. on schools , if labour in power. no, schools, if labour in power. no, i don't personally . the i don't personally. the independent sector is very those are huge based property assets . are huge based property assets. one school closures the money that supported it goes to whichever school to build it and the parent who can continue paying the parent who can continue paying the fees of whom that will be money will will join other schools and make them stronger . so no, i don't think stronger. so no, i don't think it will be too obvious who, but there will be an enormous reorganisation of independent education. a lot coming together to efficiencies. there's a lot of taking advantage of technologies that teach better , technologies that teach better, cheapen technologies that teach better, cheaper, a lot of innovation it's high time we have some innovation in education just don't think they'll just put the fees up to too much. so add the vat to the fees so that the parents have to pay for anyway. but i think if they just did that, there would be a lot of closure. but i don't think will i think they will cut control. well that might mean that they have redundancies or fewer teachers might not be my teachers that might not be my view is in your view, do you think that that is wise move to add onto the fees of add that onto the fees of private . no i don't private schools. no i don't think it helps anybody i think it will not raise a great deal of money for the country it will disturb lot of a lot of good schools . i disturb lot of a lot of good schools. i don't disturb lot of a lot of good schools . i don't think it's schools. i don't think it's constructive ways to deal with education. education is a good aspiration something to encourage everyone not just an end to public school. encourage everyone not just an end to public school . what about end to public school. what about the tory party , though? because the tory party, though? because they are they are wanting to. well, not all of them, but they are planning to stop more grammar schools. do you think thatis grammar schools. do you think that is a good plan ? i think that is a good plan? i think there's no space, no . between there's no space, no. between now and the election to get new grammar school started. it's an old argument. the grammar schools we got a lot of very good school whether that the right way to go that would a local decision it ought to be a local decision it ought to be a local to say we want to have some grammar schools no labour party allow that i hope the next conservative government will. but that needs to be in the manifesto . we can't do it before manifesto. we can't do it before them . do you do you think them. do you do you think they're just tinkering and actually they should be focusing actually they should be focusing actually bringing up state schools to a standard rather than of robbing peter't make sense to me . i think that has to be the me. i think that has to be the focus of 700,000 odd kids in schools, which are ofsted grade four or have been stuck in grade three for ages. that's where emphasis ought to be on really making life better for those children, getting good discipline , good teachers and discipline, good teachers and bringing those children in the way the princes catherine but will thing in the case of yeah well all right look lucas, stay right there. it's going to have a chat with the chairman for the campaign for real education , campaign for real education, chris mcgovern. chris thank you very much for joining chris mcgovern. chris thank you very much forjoining me. chris mcgovern. chris thank you very much forjoining me . chris, very much forjoining me. chris, a whole ask you then. so in your view, do you think that getting rid of grammar or not having any more grammar schools also putting that on fee paying schools is actually the right move ? it's very

coming up. let's check in first at the white house with peter doocy. because, peter, i mentioned the white house wants $4 billion for all of this. we need a line item detail of what they will spend it on and they are still planning, as far as we know, to keep title 42 on the chopping block. >> bill: it is interesting, harris. even though officials have said the pandemic is over, it sounds like they would be happy to have this pandemic-era tool for expelling migrants on the books if it wasn't for those pesky courts. >> we are required by court order to lift title 42 by december 21st. that's the court order that we have been given. the department of justice is going to lead that effort and what happens next. so i won't get ahead of that. >> this is the concern from a group of republicans and democrats in congress. dhs is almost completely reliant on title 42 to control migration from mexico in the northern triangle. vast majority of people encountered by u.s. border patrol along the border in october 2022 were expelled under title 42 rather than processed under title e

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coming in and talking through that. so let's delve in further now. peter spenceh delve in further now. peterins us the commentator, joins us down the line . peter i suppose let's line. peter i suppose let's start off by with migration. i do . to come to some other issues do. to come to some other issues as well. but this is a really tncky as well. but this is a really tricky thicket for the government . it is, but also, i'm government. it is, but also, i'm actually rather with you. i think that you, tom, i think that the whole thing is slightly overblown. you talk about 40,000 people or something coming over. we're a population of 56 million. i think we can more less accommodate that. of course . there are huge pinch points in certain areas . pressures on the certain areas. pressures on the health service and pressures on the education and so on. but in the education and so on. but in the grand scheme of things , i the grand scheme of things, i think that this thing is to some extent rather fuelled by right wing media. and there's got altogether out of proportion. i compare and contrast with

peter edwards . editor of labour list peter edwards. coming where did you spend. edwards. coming where did you spend . sorry this . i do spend. sorry this. i do apologise. so did of you feel a stirring of some sort of agitation listening to that let me ask you chris is my neighbour in sindh alone . i suppose that's in sindh alone. i suppose that's letting at least is probably going to be last thing that might be replaced by by computers and artificial intelligence and so on, but do you feel that there's there are changes and shifts in the world that are not being adequately addressed by society ? well, addressed by society? well, actually, no. i mean, i think sport is definitely one sport actually is definitely one of the arenas that has taken on artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint. starting artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint . starting blocks its endpoint. starting blocks now back in my day so that stand there that's a lot and oh he got on the of biology or where as he called you can do like timing but now there's all sorts of sensors in blocks and split camera positions to tell you that yes you've solar you've come to faster than than than the human body can trigger. come to faster than than than the human body can trigger . so the human body can trigger. so yes of a few quite a few things that i am so tickled my joints i suppose. that i am so tickled my joints i suppose . question is there is suppose. question is there is there's legitimate use isn't there, of artificial intelligence in in sport generally speaking of course we stay in the world cup. now a number of crucial decisions were referred to the var technology, which very controversial at the time when it first came in. and does some people seem paeans to the smooth flow the of the game. but when the referee likely to send the wrong team through to the final probably best to the final it's probably best to be the ball passed over be sure if the ball passed over the suppose the main the line. i suppose the main threat really ultimately is the extent to which sport itself could become subject to in huntsman's, where the people might actually be able to use technology in order play better. i mean, we've already had being accused of using modified love beadsin accused of using modified love beads in order to cheat at chess. do you think this is something that could, like elevate hurdles. well again, you know, like in in today's world, the tracks have been modified in some way, shape , form. and so some way, shape, form. and so it's not a stretch of the imagination to some sort of computer implants, except say to say to people run faster. why you want to do that? i really don't know. but there you go. so the fact is, for me is we can't get away from it. our whole world has enhanced by it. it's for me, is unintended consequences . when guy goes from consequences. when guy goes from a very helpful all round thing for the human experience in this to world surveillance for hubristic manipulation all of a sudden big brother is not just watching you but also manipulating you and i. that's the extent, isn't there? linda, would you say to which seem quite keen to embrace that a lot of people have discussed over the years who was more accurate. orwell or huxley seem to think that we would relish the convenience that came with technology and not particularly mind, though our every move was was observed . do about was observed. do you feel about that? look, i think that the march the relentless of artificial intelligence can't be stopped. you started your monologue by talking about the health service and there was a very two very big developments in the this morning reported in that we saw that you have a kind of avatar can actually talk to people and it's not it's obviously a real person it's an animated person that can give medical advice . but it was on medical advice. but it was on top of a much more important story from the same fund actually within the government that was funding something called the brain omics experiment project. and that actually was able to help stroke victims. it's been hugely successful in helping stroke victims who suffered a stroke and then have to get hospital immediately. i miscarried very, very quickly, far the scans and read far quicker than a human being can and they can be treated almost immediately. being can and they can be treated almost immediately . and treated almost immediately. and some of those people have suffered strokes actually leave hospital with their health restored to normal. so it would be it would be ridiculous to complain about that, wouldn't it, to chafe on it. but it has some implications if you if you intend to become, of course, a medical practitioner. petersuppose in your line of work, which was, if i understand correctly, has been largely to do political science, do with political science, political do you feel political and so on, do you feel like ability of text like the ability of the text bots, the chat bots to create plausible dialogue and word and text and prose and so on? or does that present a threat to your line of work even? i don't think it does present a threat. and i think your monologue was perhaps a little bit gloomy. us delighted that you started with sport because that is such a good example, you know, and it's interesting your chris said for example could a machine teach a child to play cricket for example in a game i love but a notoriously complex one of course not because it relies on judgement not just of the ball and the thought in the people you're facing, but the weather and the pitch and everything else. i think there's a big difference technology difference in technology and i use vr and we've i'm use i mention

peter edwards . editor of labour list peter edwards. coming where did you spend. edwards. coming where did you spend . sorry this . i do spend. sorry this. i do apologise. so did of you feel a stirring of some sort of agitation listening to that let me ask you chris is my neighbour in sindh alone . i suppose that's in sindh alone. i suppose that's letting at least is probably going to be last thing that might be replaced by by computers and artificial intelligence and so on, but do you feel that there's there are changes and shifts in the world that are not being adequately addressed by society ? well, addressed by society? well, actually, no. i mean, i think sport is definitely one sport actually is definitely one of the arenas that has taken on artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint. starting artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint . starting blocks its endpoint. starting blocks now back in my day so that stand there that's a lot and oh he got on the of biology or where as he called you can do like timing but now there's all sorts of sensors in blocks and split camera positions to tell you that yes you've solar you've come to faster than than than the human body can trigger. come to faster than than than the human body can trigger . so the human body can trigger. so yes of a few quite a few things that i am so tickled my joints i suppose. that i am so tickled my joints i suppose . question is there is suppose. question is there is there's legitimate use isn't there, of artificial intelligence in in sport generally speaking of course we stay in the world cup. now a number of crucial decisions were referred to the var technology, which very controversial at the time when it first came in. and does some people seem paeans to the smooth flow the of the game. but when the referee likely to send the wrong team through to the final probably best to the final it's probably best to be the ball passed over be sure if the ball passed over the suppose the main the line. i suppose the main threat really ultimately is the extent to which sport itself could become subject to in huntsman's, where the people might actually be able to use technology in order play better. i mean, we've already had being accused of using modified love beadsin accused of using modified love beads in order to cheat at chess. do you think this is something that could, like elevate hurdles. well again, you know, like in in today's world, the tracks have been modified in some way, shape , form. and so some way, shape, form. and so it's not a stretch of the imagination to some sort of computer implants, except say to say to people run faster. why you want to do that? i really don't know. but there you go. so the fact is, for me is we can't get away from it. our whole world has enhanced by it. it's for me, is unintended consequences . when guy goes from consequences. when guy goes from a very helpful all round thing for the human experience in this to world surveillance for hubristic manipulation all of a sudden big brother is not just watching you but also manipulating you and i. that's the extent, isn't there? linda, would you say to which seem quite keen to embrace that a lot of people have discussed over the years who was more accurate. orwell or huxley seem to think that we would relish the convenience that came with technology and not particularly mind, though our every move was was observed . do about was observed. do you feel about that? look, i think that the march the relentless of artificial intelligence can't be stopped. you started your monologue by talking about the health service and there was a very two very big developments in the this morning reported in that we saw that you have a kind of avatar can actually talk to people and it's not it's obviously a real person it's an animated person that can give medical advice . but it was on medical advice. but it was on top of a much more important story from the same fund actually within the government that was funding something called the brain omics experiment project. and that actually was able to help stroke victims. it's been hugely successful in helping stroke victims who suffered a stroke and then have to get hospital immediately. i miscarried very, very quickly, far the scans and read far quicker than a human being can and they can be treated almost immediately. being can and they can be treated almost immediately . and treated almost immediately. and some of those people have suffered strokes actually leave hospital with their health restored to normal. so it would be it would be ridiculous to complain about that, wouldn't it, to chafe on it. but it has some implications if you if you intend to become, of course, a medical practitioner. petersuppose in your line of work, which was, if i understand correctly, has been largely to do political science, do with political science, political do you feel political and so on, do you feel like ability of text like the ability of the text bots, the chat bots to create plausible dialogue and word and text and prose and so on? or does that present a threat to your line of work even? i don't think it does present a threat. and i think your monologue was perhaps a little bit gloomy. us delighted that you started with sport because that is such a good example, you know, and it's interesting your chris said for example could a machine teach a child to play cricket for example in a game i love but a notoriously complex one of course not because it relies on judgement not just of the ball and the thought in the people you're facing, but the weather and the pitch and everything else. i think there's a big difference technology difference in technology and i use vr and we've i'm use i mention

actions it is actually to come down to a actions it is actually to come down to a man who just got this peter the great man who just got this peter the great man who just got this peter the great envy but can the u.s stop vladimir putin envy but can the u.s stop vladimir putin envy but can the u.s stop vladimir putin is there anything that may be done can is there anything that may be done can is there anything that may be done can be done he can be stopped by the be done he can be stopped by the be done he can be stopped by the ukrainian armies and if they continue to ukrainian armies and if they continue to ukrainian armies and if they continue to decimate the russian armies as they have decimate the russian armies as they have decimate the russian armies as they have and the word will get back to the and the word will get back to the and the word will get back to the russian people that their soldiers their russian people that their soldiers their russian people that their soldiers their children their husbands their fathers children their husbands their fathers children their husbands their fathers are being and their mothers

peter's basilica where it will lie in state from monday. hope frances will lead the funeral proceedings for his predecessor in saint peter's square on thursday. tribute to benedict our coming in from all over the world. german chancellor, olaf shaw says the world has lost a formative figure of the catholic church. pope a benedict was from germany. italy's prime minister, georgia maloney remembered benedict as a giant of faith and reason. frances president demanded my call, hailed him for his work towards a more brotherly world. and britain's prime minister richie sooner said he was saddened by the death of a great fuel large in in avenues. the palestinian authority has welcome devote at the united nations asking for the opinion of the international court of justice on israel's occupation. the un wants to understand what effect decades of violence has had on the palestinian people's right to self determination. the world health organization is urging china to share more information. i'd surgeon, coven, 1900 cases, w h o wants chinese officials to provide real time data and tracking of any potential new variance. the move comes, i mean, growing concerned about the transparen

peter. >> steve: peter, real quick, you have -- you are really close to the blare house. you walk past the blare house coming to your assignment today. is he staying there? has he already arrived? for security reasons they are keeping his movement very close the same as they would with president biden. it doesn't look like they are setting anything up at the blair house. we know this trip alone is the first trip out of ukraine in three hundred days. we have gone earlier this year with him broadcasting it was a big deal when he went out on the street to do an instagram live video broadcasting where he is in real time. they don't have much fear of sneak russian attack on him just moving about within ukraine. but this is a big trip. >> steve: big. >> brian: itself. he is a great speaker. should be an interesting address. thanks, peter a lot of guy spent a lot of time in ukraine lately. brian fitzpatrick, former fbi guy. an agent who served in ukraine has been there when the war started. so, congressman, did this catch you by surprise. and are you looking forward to the address today? >> hey, how are you guys? >> steve: good morning. >> i am looking forward to it. i will be there. i'm heading on a train down to d.c. shortly here. i was surprised. even as the co-chair of the ukraine caucus myself, marci captor, my democratic co-chair. we were both surprised as well. there is obviously a lot of security concerns. this is his first time leaving ukraine since february 2 #th since the invasion. i'm glad he is coming. >> steve: no kidding. congressman, you are on the ukraine caucus. there are a number of people in your republican caucus who are balking at the size of the amount of money the united states has extended to ukraine now, if they go ahead with $45 billion in this omnibus, that will push our investment over $100

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the 18th century, peter began to travel to europe, and the christmas tree was just coming into fashion there. came into fashion, again, not among the people, but among the nobles, and peteragain brought a christmas tree to the yard and in the ki- at ​​the end of the 18th century , catherine ii, the power of moscow to the throne, which legitimized this market and obliged to ask all questions so so what a little christmas tree he was st. nicholas with the arrival of the communists again ah with the arrival of lenin when he was brought again he told the german diplomat already in the car that he made a coup and there was a vacuum uh how to celebrate the new year there was this vacuum for some years and already later for stalin was given an order to develop a soviet new year's manual, and again in the 37th bloody year. why bloody? because in the 37th year, the most people were killed, the most people were murdered, and the most repressions appeared. frost, but he is already called grandfather frost with the same dead girl who died near the christmas tree that he is lying on, now they called snow maiden and grandfather frost's granddaughter moscow snow maiden, that's what she

peters candidate. well, charlie peters is a journalist , documentary is a journalist, documentary filmmaker with exclusive for gb news. he joins now. and charlie, this surely comes as a surprise to you . well, i mean, i've been to you. well, i mean, i've been i've been studying it for a few, actually, waiting for the right time to let it go. i mean, people have been asking for quite while since broke the quite a while since we broke the story monday. how earth story last monday. how on earth could given this could dominic back, given this position as the prospective candidate for labour, how could he sneak through, considering big his role in resigning from his his role in resigning from the cabinet after the casey report revealed that rotherham borough council was in denial over the of the town's child abuse scandal. well now we know that one of the reasons why he was selected is because the selection committee involved . selection committee involved. the former deputy leader of the council, emma hoddinott, who also to resign the same also had to resign the same time. so seven years after his experience , i think people if experience, i think people if they assume people have moved on, people aren't keeping an eye on, people aren't keeping an eye on going on in the town. on what's going on in the town. we certainly are. we've seen that they are once again, including to including working together to possibly seat in possibly gather a seat in westminster. well despite dominic appearing on the dominic back appearing on the front the at the front page of the times at the and being one of those who obviously had to resign in the wake scandal, labour wake of this scandal, the labour party say that he wasn't personally implicated in any of the reports that , yes, of the reports that, yes, of course, he served in the council cabinets, but only for around a year before this went on. and they say that he wasn't personally in this scandal. so it's worth noting that hoddinott was also on the front of the times the day after the report was exposed and the labour party would like to know defence. it's true that they weren't personally, but as leader. i'm not. and as as a member of the cabinet in dominic back they are responsible as institutional leaders for the culture and the perspectives and the general mood of the institution that they in charge of that they lead and. we know from the casey report that was revealed in 2015, in february , that there 2015, in february, that there was a culture of denial. 2015, in february, that there was a culture of denial . 70% of was a culture of denial. 70% of councillors serving in rotherham council refused to admit that at a conservative estimate , hundred a conservative estimate, hundred girls had been abused . and the girls had been abused. and the case report also found that some council members in the cabinet and we don't know who were also involved in that denial. no, there's no suggestion. of course , that back nor were personal implicated in that denial. but as i said before, as leaders surely they have some collective responsibility . what most of responsibility. what most of their councillors thought and what most most of their councillors thought very councillors thought was very much line with what the much not in line with what the experts telling them the experts were telling them at the time. just go over time. and let's just go over this because i think it this scandal, because i think it is worth revisiting what happened not only in rotherham, but many towns across the but in many towns across the united kingdom , where there was united kingdom, where there was this institutional perhaps cover up of deep seated abuse. that's right . and rotherham really is right. and rotherham really is unfortunately, the pinnacle of this crisis . alexis jay in her this crisis. alexis jay in her report in august 14, she found that between 1997, 2013, again, a conservative estimate of 1400 girls had been abused raped, trafficked, exploited , some of trafficked, exploited, some of them even tortured, some of them as young 11. and the scandal that she uncovered also involved as you council collusion denial . the police would be uninvolved they would look the other way when girls were found being abused some of them told the parents of these daughters that they needed to learn a lesson they needed to learn a lesson they would teach them a lesson. so, i mean, there was the horrifying perspective from the top bottom of the local top to the bottom of the local council the police council and the police institutions. but unfortunately , has found, this is , as gb news has found, this is also country. we are also across the country. we are personally investigating telford and rochdale in particular, but there up 50 other towns there are up to 50 other towns and cities where credible reports of grooming have been going over same period . going on over the same period. and gangs have and these grooming gangs have been without the sort been operating without the sort of scrutiny you might expect, particularly councillors , other particularly councillors, other figures of authority have been afraid of being called racist. that's right. there is. a huge issue regarding ethnicity in this crisis . issue regarding ethnicity in this crisis. it's very unfortunate that due to the racial disparity between perpetrators and victims, there is a degree of nervousness , is a degree of nervousness, political correctness that washes over the conversation and forces many important voices and fortunately, some cowardly voices to look the other way and pretend it's not it's not going on. i mean, many the stories in these exclusives that i've revealed last week have revealed in the last week have been in plain for ages, and been lie in plain for ages, and there's more to come. and the reason why lying in reason why they've been lying in plain because people plain sight, because people are scared stories. they scared of the stories. they don't it. and other don't to look into it. and other councillors and police officers have from have been benefiting from that enormously. to enormously. it really gets to the bottom. lot of issues in the bottom. a lot of issues in our country. perhaps not our country. this is perhaps not just race and people being just about race and people being afraid of being called racist, but it's also about class. and these girls who are being these these girls who are being abused very often came from parts of society that people , parts of society that people, frankly, a bit embarrassed about. correct. a lot of them were in care, but not all of them, unfortunately, are missing women. we're talking about this issue. but the vast majority of the were white working the victims were white working class unfortunately class girls. unfortunately perspectives we've seen perspectives that we've seen from senior police from a lot of senior police officers and council members and indeed workers they indeed workers has been they weren't class. weren't really working class. they underclass. they they were underclass. they weren't worthy of attention. they worthy of support. they weren't worthy of support. we have a quote from a whistleblower rochdale whistleblower in rochdale who told that they were going to contribute nothing to society and better if they were and it was better if they were drowned at i mean, these drowned at birth. i mean, these people, were treated people, the girls were treated with throughout with disdain throughout throughout country, throughout the country, in so many there's many these towns. and there's girls when came to social girls when they came to social workers with with stories , their workers with with stories, their abuse, they were told why i haven't bruises. they were haven't bruises. and they were told they wouldn't make good witnesses court . told they wouldn't make good witnesses court. it some witnesses in court. it took some sometimes took decades for sometimes it took decades for any prosecutions to come. the girls ignored. girls girls were ignored. the girls were as were treated frankly as scum. and years on, that is still a major problem . bringing it back major problem. bringing it back to rotherham . we do have to rotherham. we do have a statement from councillor emma hoddinott who says i can confirm that i was a member of the selection committee for the recent parliamentary selection in rother valley. however the committee does not select the candidate as they are elected by a vote . all members in the a vote. all members in the constituency . i have never constituency. i have never worked for rotherham council, she says the failings in rotherham in the past were awful . they have been trans there been transformational changes since . the labour group since. the labour group commissioned the report 2013. we remain committed to tackling the heinous crime of child sexual. now a labour party spokesman added. now a labour party spokesman added . the labour party takes added. the labour party takes the findings of the jay and casey reports in seriously the took the necessary action at the time against officials implicated . so in our final 20 implicated. so in our final 20 seconds charlie peterse go from here. well i mean i think the statement quite extraordinary. i have never worked for rotherham council. what was the standout point for me? play but me? but it would play but a facetious because she facetious miss because she worked elected official worked as an elected official within council . she's trying within the council. she's trying to rid of the to rid herself of the responsibility of time responsibility of her time there. says there. and also she says transformational changes to how transformational changes to how transformational is transformational change is really be . if people had to really be. if people had to resign over council's resign over the council's failure coming to failure could be coming to westminster really westminster. really, really interesting no interesting stuff they will no doubt more on this story to doubt much more on this story to go but that's it for the programme today coming up it's bev turner today . very good morning. welcome to best

come to st. peter's square to mourn the death. it's something that they've done for years. the bells of st. peter's rings and it summons the people here. this is not an unexpected death, but nonetheless, it's sad for a lot of people. a lot of conservative people in the catholic church never really stopped believing that pope benedict was their pope. you know, he had a very cordial relationship with pope francis and francis would visit him often inside the monastery, but they were very separate figures and represented two different aspects of the church. so you've got sadness here, but it's not unexpected. we've known for the last three days when pope francis called for prayers for pope benedict earlier in the week saying he was not very well. he was a 95-year-old man, and he retired ten years ago because of his failing health. and as delia said in her tribute to him, you know, he was influential all the quay to the end. but people in st. peter's square starting to gather now, they're coming to pay their last respects to the man that they really, really loved. >> all right. barbie nadeau, thank you

peter doocy at the white house on what grand plan might be coming and how soon from the white house. peter? >> neil, the things that bill melugin is seeing at the border and the things that we're hearing in the white house briefing room are totally divorced from each other. because despite everything that you just saw and heard, the white house press secretary says basically that they're happy with the way things are going at the border. this is from just now. >> the president has done -- has done the work to deal with what we're seeing at the border since day one. >> okay. they are pointing to a dhs plan six points on it. came out last night. a few items on there, surging resources to the border, increasing processing efficiency at cbp, administering consequences for unlawful entry, things like that. but the white house is trying to pass the buck now to congress. they say president biden put forward an immigration plan on his first day in office. it's up to congress to come up with a way to make it happen. send it back to the president's desk. the speaker of the house said today that at least while democrats control the chamber for the rest of the month, that won't happen. congress will not act on this. nancy pelosi followed with the following. >> i do like talking about immigration though. it's the constant re-invigoration of america. >> they're insisting right now ahead of title 42's expiration, there's an all of government approach to prepare. it's not that though. people in the house or senate don't know what the plan is. neil? >> neil: and the details that we get don't even hint of a delay. in other words, pushing back title 42. that is just not in the cards, right? >> no. it's really interesting. this is a trump-era immigration policy. somebody asked karine jean-pierre today point blank, do you guys think it's good or bad that it's going to expire? instead of saying whether they think title 42 is good or bad, they say it's the result of a court order that it's ending and we're going to follow the cord order. neil? >> neil: thanks, peter doocy at the white house. texas senator john cornyn not too pleased with what he's hearing from the administration and nothing of late has changed his mind. take a look. >> this is a big flashing green light to anybody and everybody from anywhere around the world, if you can get to our southern border, you can probably make your way in to the united states. it's dangerous and it's chaotic and it's creating a lot of hardship for border communities in texas. also danger across the country, particularly when it comes to the drugs that come across. >> neil: parentsly and you know better than i, senator, it's galvanized many south of the boreder from mexico to all points south. central and southern america. that is the green light will be back on. now that it has not been on for a lot of folks anyway if it goes away and a surge is expected. do you agree with that? >> folks that look and think about coming to the united states, they can watch television, call or talk to friends and relative

peter mccullough, epidemiologist, cardiologist and author of requested courage to face covid-19." dr. peter mccullough, your response to the twitter shadowbanning news, i know it doesn't come as a shock to you given what they have done to you. >> medical censorship has to be stopped. this is a disturbing trend. you reviewed it well with dr. bhattacharya. he, i, and others have been trying to bring the truth on the analysis and you do have a right to free speech. >> laura: you're one of the most published cardiologists in the united states and the world and a world renowned expert on cardiac conditions and cardiac arrests and causes and so forth. and, i keep saying this. if they can do it to you, i mean, they can do it to anybody. they did it to the president of the united states, of course, for various different reasons, that were ridiculous, but in this case, they did it to you. you were not a political person. >> doctors have become public figures as america looks to doctors who can give an alternative analysis. there are simply data and multiple different interpretive points of view. america is tired of hearing a government narrative. they want to hear an intelligent conversation about what's happening in this evolving state of affairs with sars covid 2. >> laura: and this cardiology report from germany, three sudden deaths attributed to recent covid vaccination, do you think this is the tip of the iceberg? >> i do. there are autopsy reports from burma, troy, gil and this report from schwab. it's clear that covid-19 myocarditis, about half the cases there are no initial symptoms. the first manifestation of sudden both found at home. the overall autopsy series showed 71% of all the patients found dead at home after vaccination within 20 days was actually due to the vaccine, either heart damage, blood clots or other conditions attributable to the vaccine. >> laura: dr. peterugh, that doesn't even speak to the neurological issues. we'll continue to cover this with you and others. thank you so much tonight. coming up, apple employees take a whole new approach to woke. the last bite, steals away next. stay there. introducing a revolutionary comfort mat that can be lengthened and even go around corners to perfectly fit your space. because we don't want to be confined to just one area to stay comfortable while working. the comfortmat connect from weathertech. the snaplink system makes it easy to connect end middle, and cornerpieces. for comfort that lasts as long as the day. learn more about the infinite possibilities of the american made comfortmat connect at weathertech.com. watch what happened in a palo alto apple store on black sunday . >> should we stop them? >> should we stop them? why stop them this is consumer reparations. should we stop them? we can't blame the employees this is just a way of life paid this tool more than $35,000 worth of merchandise

come up with the annexation of the russian army in ukraine. russian he wants to be like peter the great, there is a new one, after all, some significant results appeared. peterfirst still fought for the fact that we should go to the sea of ​​azov, the scenario of the annexation of belarus is reserved for lukashenka , or they will be removed or appointed to some calming position we know that part of his assets are there in the gulf. therefore, he wants to end his life there somewhere in abu dhabi, there on the shore of the gulf, something like that with his money and so on. therefore, he needs guarantees of physical security. he needs guarantees of his assets, his entourage, which can tell a lot about lukashenko himself, but how realistic is it to carry out such an annexation right now, belarusian journalist and human rights defender natalya radina is convinced that lukashenko will once again try to spin such a scenario a long, long time ago, such scenarios have been telling tales in ukraine for a long time, and he can annex belarus, but firstly, this annexation and occupation is not recognized by the whole civilized world , and secondly, i do not think that

come down in the new year. back to you. >> katie: all right peter thank you very much. >> joey: thanks peter. >> katie: when something goesn a flight or there's a norovirus outbreak on the crews and they try to give you a voucher for another cruise? i want money. we'll see if they give free flights or write some checks. >> griff: i think really the question now is, so how do you hold them accountable? how do you make this, the airlines pay if you will and of course we have all the progressive democrats piling on, particularly buttigieg but in the last hour we talked to fox business's lauren simonetti about really that question and here's what she had to say. >> the culprit here is the internal systems, the software, that southwest airlines uses. even the head of their pilots union came out and said this has been a major problem for decades. we literally cannot find and get the pilot to the plane with the crew. we just can't get it together. that's why we've seen 15, 16 thousand cancellations this week. so it is southwest's problem. but southwest also got $7.2 billion in taxpayer money. audit that now. how was that spent?

peter beinart, editor large for jewish currents and the author of the biden, notebook on substack. peter, thank so much for coming back on the show. incredibly, this bizarre courtship between so-called christian scientists and israeli politicians israeli leaders's been shepherded for a quarter of a century by benjamin netanyahu, has been prime minister for most that time. it's about to become prime minister again. here he is just days ago, rewriting history in a very friendly interview with conservative christian jordan peterson. >> it was an empty land. and in the 19th century, the idea of coming back next year in jerusalem, became a reality. by the way, in part, because of christian zionist support for the idea of the great return. areas from nearby country started immigrating, and they now became, they call themselves palestinians. they reconstructed history and said, we've been here for centuries. no they haven't. >> jordan peterson basically not along and says, right, too much of what netanyahu says. where do even start with this bizarre alliance? >> i mean, what's coming of netanyahu is kind of really old-fashioned, colonialist racist rhetoric. the idea that these lands were not populated, there were no people there. or if there were people there, there were people there who didn't really deserve the land, because they were primitive and backward. if you look at the south african under apartheid, they used to say very similar things. that africans only came to south africa after the europeans had come and made it prosperous. the reality is, the vast majority of people, when the sinus movement started in european jews started coming in significant measures, there was a jewish population in israel palestine. most of the people were non jewish palestinian arabs. they were not backward and uncivilized, this was their home. and so, talking like this is just, i think, a sign of how kind of normalized anti palestinian, anti arab bigotry can be in fairly mainstream american conversation. >> and just be clear, peterl as a defense against charges of antisemitism? >> no, not at all. on the surface, it might seem well, how can you be hostile to american jews if you love the jewish state? but if you think about it, it's not actually that, and makes a certain distance. you like choose when they're over there. and their own country. you don't like them when your country. if this has a long history. netanyahu was talking about history of christian support for zionism. one of the most famous christians who was supporting zionism was arthur -- the foreign secretary of britain, who offered the famous bell for dictation that set the british empire support of the jewish homeland in israel palestine. you know what? author bell for, big antisemite? when's prime minister of the beginning of the 20th century, he helped push through the aliens act that shut off immigration from eastern europe to england. because he didn't win a lot of juice coming to england. you know we one of them to go? he wasn't good to pales

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peter's basilica. our way will lie in state from monday. poke francis will lead the funeral proceedings for his predecessor in saint peter's square on thursday or attributes to benedict are coming in from all over the world. the former pope was born in germany. the german chancellor olaf shore says the world has lost a formative figure of the catholic church. italy's prime minister, georgia maloney remembered benedict as a giant of faith and reason, french president emanuel my call hailed him for his work towards a more brotherly world. and britons by minister wishes to knock said he is saddened by the death of a great theology and also in the news. the palestinian authority has welcomed her vote at the united nations asking for the opinion of the international court of justice on israel's occupation. the un wants the to understand what effect dig decades of violence have had on the palestinian people's right to self determination. kristin salome has more from the united nations in new york. the u. n. is asking the international court of justice to issue an advisory opinion on what it refers to as israel's prolonged occupation settlement and annexation of palestinian territory. the general assembly made the request in a resolution citing generations of palestinians living under oppressive military occupation. and without some basic human rights, the world health organization is urging china to share more information on a virgin covered 19 cases. the agency wants chinese official supervisor, real time data and tracking of any potential new variance. the move comes i made growing concerned about the transparency of beijing's official figures. while chinese president, she g paying spoke about the outbreak during his new year's address. florida 3 has moved from hong kong surgeon, being talked about how 2022 was an unprecedented year. but he also mentioned that china has beaten an unprecedented challenge. and he said the epidemic control had reached a new stage. the measures that the government had taken in 2022 were optimized and adjusted. he talked about the economy and said it's resilient. he said, the long term fundamentals remain unchanged. south korea says the nor fast fired 3 ballistic missiles towards the see east of the korean peninsula. it's the latest in a record number of missile tests carried out by p on young this year. for got it on the reserve by 7 north korea. ballistic missile launches a grave provocation that undermines peace, instability on the korean peninsula, as well as the international community. also, it's a clear violation of the un security council resolution. thus we urge them to stop immediately. meanwhile, japan is looking to develop missiles with a range of up to 3000 kilometers. the planned weapons would be able to reach any part of north korea. local media is reporting that japan aims to deploy the missiles in the 20 thirty's. when is when an opposition figure one wydell has criticized the decision to dissolve his interim government. nearly 50 countries had recognized him as the legitimate leader of venezuela. that opposition party say he failed to asked president nicholas maduro. outgoing brazilian president j the ball to narrow has flown to the united states less than 2 days before his left. his rival is due to take office. alton, our last to loose is nasty and rude. a silver in a presidential run off last month. protesters in bolivia have said cars on fire and blocked roads following the arrests of a prominent opposition leader. police fire tear gas to disperse the crowds in santa cruz. the protests were part of a 24 hour strike launched after the regions governor luis. fernando camacho was detained on thursday and the new years already being welcomed in as 2023 drawers in some parts of the world. this was the fireworks display in oakland . you zealand as the clock struck midnight, but it was the line island spot of kerry bath that were 1st to enter the new year. thanks for watching archers here. ah. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question with neither side. willing to negotiate is the ukraine war becoming a forever war? let's get to the bottom line. ah. after 10 months of fighting, the ukraine war has settled into a scary cycle. any ukrainian advance on russian forces in the east is almost immediately followed by russian drone strikes on ukrainian infrastructure in the west. so besides the death and the destruction and displacement of people, folks are also suffering and freezing temperatures. with no electricity. ukraine insist that the war is not over until the very last russian soldier leaves its territory. moscow can afford to wait it out because the fighting is on its soil and western sanctions haven't crippled the economy. sure, the conflict is coming home for russians as they hear horror stories from their own young, mobilize mostly male population on the front lines, but the war machine just rages on. meanwhile, u. s. president joe biden has been able to spend an average of $7000000000.00 per month on the ukraine war. but now that the republicans control congress, can he keep up the pace next year? or will ukraine soon have to make tough compromises and sit down at the negotiating table. today we're taking a look at the next phase of the war with steven wall, professor of international relations at harvard university and author of the hell of good intentions. american foreign policy lead and the decline of u. s. primacy. steve, it's so great to be with you. again, this is always a tough discussion. i want to tell people, none of us take what's going on lightly. ah, but i'm very happy to be talking to dr. walt to day about what history tells us at moments like this. what, what should we be thinking about that maybe we're afraid to talk about about where the ukraine is. a war is going, steve. well, i think the probably the scariest prospect for most of us is that you won't get the site kind of decisive hollywood ending, but many people would like to see here. i think most of us would like to see where you get sort of decisive humiliating defeat of russia. the united states and its allies can claim, you know, great foreign policy victory, the ukrainians, get all of their territory back. and russia is a chassis and in the future by this that's, i think, what many people would like to see? and the problem is that while that is, i guess, still a remote possibility is by no means the most likely possibility. i think the most likely possibility is that if we have this conversation a year from now, russia is still controlling a substantial amount of ukrainian territory. vladimir putin is still in power in moscow, and ukraine has suffered another years worth of damage. that's not going to look like such a happy story, but it's precisely in situations like that that each side has to start rethinking what it's war aims are, as far as asking whether there is some sort of political compromise that neither one is necessarily going to like very much, but better than allowing the war to continue forever. war president biden has been very hesitant to ask ukraine to begin any sort of real negotiations process, but both around the president, but also very top tier national security voices are beginning to say we need another track. one of them is henry kissinger and henry kissinger in the spectator, wrote, the time is approaching to build on the strategic changes which have already been accomplished and to integrate them into a new structure towards achieving peace through negotiation. a representative of president vladimir zaleski was very quick to respond. he says, all supporters of simple solutions should remember the obvious. any agreement with the devil, a bad piece at the expense of your in territories will be a victory for potent and a recipe for success. for autocrats around the world and that was ukrainian presidential aid mikaela patrol yak. well i think that frames pretty well, you know, 2 dimensions in the debate. and i guess one of the questions i have for you, steven is america and nato. so wrapped up in this process now that we can't be the party that begins talking about how to seek a compromise or negotiated are, we still stuck on one side of this that we're no longer able to see the other side . i don't think that's quite true. it's true that the united states may not be the best honest broker here, given that we're all in on, on one particular side. and there may have to be 3rd parties that help sort of smooth the beginnings of this discussion. i might add that the a president soleski is right. this is not going to be an easy negotiation by any means. and the obstacles to any kind of political settlement are formidable in people who talk about, you know, going to p stocks and reaching a solution very quickly. i think have not thought to clearly just how difficult this is going to be. ukraine has every reason to want some kind of assurances that this isn't going to happen again. russia will undoubtedly have its own desires for certain assurances so that the things that helped lead it to start the war in the 1st place are alleviated. and none of these are going to be easy to work out at all, so i wouldn't be naive about it. but nonetheless, the thing that's going to drive, i think, consideration of some form of negotiated settlement is the difficulty that both sides are going to have in achieving any kind of decisive breakthrough on the ground. it's quite clear that the initial russian war plan was badly designed, their forces mismanage, that they weren't prepared. they made miscalculation after miscalculation, but at this point, there are war effort does appear to be improving slightly. they have defensible positions that are going to be hard for the ukrainians to tackle. it's going to be increasingly hard for either side, i think to make really decisive gains. and yet the pain will continue. and it's a point like that. sometimes it's called a hurting stalemate, that then you get people to say, well, ok, we're not going to get everything we might want. what can we get that we might be able to live with? i don't think we're there yet by the way. but that's, i think we're, this is ultimately going and up. one of the questions i have is, how much pain are the russians feeling from this? and recently i met with gentlemen, it was the former chief of staff of the german defense ministry is now working for the minute unit security conference. and he's very adamant that ukraine will win and will prevail. in this he said that the russian soldiers are untrained, unprepared. they are, while we're seeing pictures of ukrainians. you know, freezing in these, in these terrible temperatures because of hit infrastructure. he said the moment, ah, the russian soldiers get wet or their uniforms aren't, aren't managed properly. they will freeze in these temperatures because they're untrained to know what to do. and i'm just interested at some certain levels at whether the feedback coming back into russia with the mobilization of so many of its young men and the battlefield scenes on the russian side, which are pretty horrific. whether or not from your experience that matters in a place like russia, that even if it's not a democracy in the way, you and i look at it, a lot of russians still think they are a democracy. right? there is no question that the russian soldiers have suffered enormously and we're not particularly well prepared for this. again, there are some indications that they're getting their act together to some degree. one of the things, it's very frustrating and trying to figure out where we are in this particular conflict, is it, it's hard to know what the relative balances on either side. i think we tend to get more upbeat reports from what's happening on the ukrainian side. it's hard to get numbers on exactly what ukrainian losses have been. we hear a lot about how badly the russians are suffering. we don't hear as much about what's happening on ukrainian side, apart from the civilian suffering that ukraine is going through. and that makes it really hard to know exactly what the balance of forces likely to be. also worth remembering, rushes got 3 times the population. pollutants mobile is ation. has brought 300000 more soldiers into the, into the meat grinder. how well prepared they're going to be, how well they'll be able to fight, remains to be seen. it seems to me. but again, the russian at this point are fighting on the defensive and they have devoted an enormous amount of effort over the last few months to building defensive positions in some key areas. whether that will be enough. again, we don't know yet. it would be in some respect what all of us hope for it that turns out not to be effective. what i don't think any of this is going to do though, is cause a you fundamental rethinking in moscow anytime soon you're not going to see it seems to me a popular uprising. i think the combination of russian propaganda and the security forces around pollutant are going to be able to keep the lid on this. so even though it's not particularly popular, even though the conduct of the war, it gets lots of criticism in the russian blogosphere as well and on email and things like that. i don't think that's going to lead to the kind of political change in russia that will cause an immediate, as i said, hollywood ending to this particular conflict. and i, i said, take no pleasure whatsoever in saying that, let me put up some figures of what u. s. a to ukraine is amounting to be in 2022 alone. we have contributed about $68000000000.00. president biden has now requested an additional $37700000000.00, and that would bring the total if approved up to about 800105 1000000000. it's running about $7000000000.00 a month to, to support ukraine. and as we said, congress is going to be, have a new dimension here shortly in a couple of weeks, and the republicans will be controlling it now to be clear to our friends, republicans are not anti supporting ukraine. some republicans are some democrats are, but this may become more of an issue about whether or not there is a blank check to supporting ukraine. and i'm wondering whether you see where you see that going in terms of pressure. you've advocated that maybe we need another course, maybe we need to find a way towards the negotiated outcome of this given the realities. but does that pressure on the financial side help? well, i don't think there's going to, you're going to see a congressionally mandated cut off anytime soon. i think congress will give the, by the administration wants at least for the next next few months. so i don't think that's going to be an issue. i do worry about the fact that even with the best will in the world, it may be somewhat more difficult for the west to include the united states to provide the levels of support that they've been able to sustain up until now. and that's in part because we've simply drawn down a lot of our own ammunition stocks to provide it to the ukrainians. so even if we want to keep supporting them at the level we have that may be hard to do it sort of the military equivalent of a supply chain problem. but the thing that i think, worries me the most, is that we still don't have a completely effective counter and may never get one to the attacks. the russians have been making on ukraine civilian infrastructure and especially it's power grid that kind of damage. if it eventually were to bring down the ukrainian power grid is a true catastrophe. and again, it's not just undermining ukrainian morale at that point. you really have a situation where, you know, millions of ukrainians might end up having to leave the country, which is already an issue for them. so there are, there are things that could happen in the next few months. again, i hope they do not, which worry me greatly and are somewhat independent of the billions of dollars up or down that the united states is able to provide both your article that appeared recently in foreign policy magazine. i highly recommended people to call the perpetually irrational ukraine debate, but also henry kissinger's article in the spectator. both out very recently, kind of raise this broad issue that, that where we're going right now isn't going to work. and to kissinger's point, he said in world war one, which was a fight about a lot of things, a fight about morality, a fight about, you know, alliances essentially the united states at that moment and world war on eventually became someone who could come in and come in from the the side and begin trying to do something different. is there anywhere i know you're famous in the air of israel? it's ok. so is there an off flow out there? you can't use also anymore because they're now in, in nato, i guess. but i mean, is there a force out there that could come by way and begin becoming part of the scene, set the stable, set the dinner, bring the parties together and begin talking about potential alternative outcomes. you know, i don't think so when the war initially broke out, i thought that the country that might be able to perform a role like that was actually china that it had influence with russia. it had a reasonably good standing with ukrainians. it wasn't actively involved in the fight and the pain could represent himself as an independent mediator, just trying to bring peace and scores, some great diplomatic points. if he were able to pull that off. i think the chinese response, which has been to that have tacitly lean in support of the russians, has now remove them from that role and they're not really interested in, in plainness. i don't think there is a 3rd party now that can essentially come in, grab each side by the scruff of the neck and say ok, you're going to make a deal. it's too politically fraught for the biden administration to try and play that role. i don't think turkey, although it's played a mediating role on some minor issues connected with the conflict. but it's not in a position, doesn't have the leverage to produce the kind of deal. and ultimately this will come down to the 2 sides deciding that they are better off reaching some kind of an agreement. i don't know what form that agreement would take. and that will, as i said earlier, involve an awful lot of complex bargaining over where lines are going to be drawn. the repack creation of prisoners reconstruction aid for ukraine, the whole issue of ukrainian neutrality, which is one of the reasons the war started assurances from the russian side. they're not simply going to rearm and start this up again a few years down the road, et cetera. there's an enormous number of issues that would have to be thrashed out here. and perhaps the best we can hope for is a, a genuine armistice that doesn't necessarily end the quote unquote conflict, but puts each side in a position where they don't want to resume things. a number of people. i think gideon rockman, in the financial times have recently raised the korea example. there's still no peace treaty ending the korean war. fought for 3 years from 1950 to 1953. but we have had an armistice that has held ever since then and something like that, but fashioned appropriately for the specific circumstances of ukraine might be where we end up here. and of course, the korean war and part depends upon the trigger of us soldiers deployed their, in part including, you know, the likelihood of a nuclear potential, you know, options can there. so as a sort of scary scenario to begin thinking about. but i think on another side of it, i've been trying to ask myself, you know, for the united states and nato, and i've been around a lot of officials recently who are just absolutely adamant that russia can not be given another permission slip as some people said it was given after the invasion annexation of crimea, that it's, expansion activities are, are one, you know, and troubling in the, in parts of eastern europe was something that needed to signal back. otherwise, if you don't respond, then this problem will become a larger one. do you think there's logic in that, in that argument? i understand the logic, but i'm not persuaded by it. the idea is that if somehow russia gets anything out of this, you know, even permanent control of crimea, that we've somehow rewarded regression. we've somehow given them a free pass, and i think if you look at the damage that's been done to russian but done to the russian military, it's quite clear that this is a strategic defeat for russia. even if they extract some kind of pyrrhic victory in some kind of final settlement. but if you just consider what this is done to the russian economy, what it's done to the russian military, what it's done to russia's global reputation, europe permanently winning itself off of russia, oil and gas. the russia being largely cut off from the most sophisticated forms of western technology are forced to smuggle them in. this is going to have long term negative consequences for russia. in other words, they're paying an enormous price for what the decision bladder report made. so even if they were to extract some set of concessions at the end, preserves some control of crimea or other parts of what was originally ukrainian territory. again, not something i would like to see happen, but if that were to happen, they have paid an enormous price for it and i don't think putting would be eager at any point in what's left of his life. to replay this kind of experiment again somewhere else. the international community has, in fact, taught the lesson that aggression really does get penalized, that it really doesn't pay. even if again, there's some kind of compromise deal that ends the war. you and i have discussed china before, and china as a much more serious geo strategic challenge to the united states and allies. what do you think china is learning from this lesson? are they seeing in america and a nato that are willing to engage more deeply than they had, or they seeing us trapped in a strategic, you know, pit that we can't extract ourselves from? i'm sure there are a range of chinese interpretations of what's going on here, but i think there are several lessons they ought to be drawing. one is that even, you know, sophisticated or well prepared, military sometimes grew up. and in fact, a elaborate military plans don't always go the way you expect them to. so that suggest a conventional military assault on taiwan, which would be difficult in the best of circumstances, is something they ought to really not consider. or at least not assume would go smoothly. last lesson number one less. number 2 is the one you alluded to that in fact, the international community tends to respond very vigorously to acts of unprovoked aggression. and the chinese assault on taiwan would be seen in that light. so the assumption that there would be disarray that america's asian partners would not know how to respond idea that nato would not react perhaps even in an asian context . all of those things are, are things that i think the chinese would not. we should take these lessons. the chinese should observe from this. there was more life left in the western alliance than they may have believed. however, that the 3rd part of this is that the longer this war goes on, the better it probably is for china. in a huge distraction, it takes enormous amount of bandwidth is consuming american resources and western resources that could be used for other purposes. so in a chinese contact in some out, and one finally, it's making russia more dependent upon china and ultimately a more compliant ally. so if you are looking for a grand strategic imperative to try and bring the ward to an end sooner rather than later. it's also so that the united states can focus on what is the longer geo strategic challenge, which is china and not russia. now, recently, the bi interviewed the incoming chair, the house congress and energy committee. cathy morris rogers and i asked her about where her support for ukraine was and how much were hurt own constituents willing to tolerate high prices, shortages, etc, down the road potentially related to the crisis. and her response was, you know, my people really don't want to see prices continue to go up. inflation is really hurting them. and she still, of course, sympathetic you know that on the ukraine front, but it raises syncing question of how the, what the future is going to look like we're seeing, you know, a global food security crisis. we're seeing energy weaponized, we're seeing authoritarianism, popular, you know, populism, etc. in reaction to some of these, how messy a year or a couple of years, do you see a head as a result of a crisis like this one? very, you know, as you know, they've been, since there's been some good news on the inflation front at least here in the united states, less so in other parts of the world. so that's something we may hope you know, continues. but i think you've put your finger on what is it a real problem? now, if we do end up with a stalemate in ukraine, and that is, it's one thing to get people in other countries to make sacrifices in the short term. if they think those sacrifices are going to pay off, it's much harder to get people to continue to make the same sacrifices when it appears to be kind of open ended, that this is not going to get resolved any time soon. are we going to have to do this for years to 3 years, 4 years? will you? and i saw the same problem with the so called forever wars in afghanistan and iraq, even when there's public support initially for them. if you don't have the prospect of success down the road, it's much harder to get people to continue to pony up and then it makes it even worse. of course, if conditions at home become more difficult, i think this is something actually the ukrainian government is well aware of, which is one of the reasons they have been trying to tout recent military successes . and i think are hoping for more because the more they can demonstrate that, you know, will meant them is on their side. and this isn't going to take forever. the more likely western support is to be sustained. the difficulty is, i think the military challenge for them is actually going to get harder, not easier in the future. and then the domestic considerations that you just raised are going to kick in more powerfully. well, steven wall, harvard university professor of international relations. thank you for your candor . thanks so much for being with us today. great talking with you as always do. so what's the bottom line ending? the war in ukraine is a tough decision for the western allies. they feel that they didn't do enough in 2014 when russia annexed crimea. and that kind of gave russian president vladimir putin a permission slip in my view, to try to roll over the rest of the country. now the u. s. in the other nato nations have made ukraine, which was not an ally, and that has to be noted, be defining challenge for themselves. that means their own self image and their own sense of security is also wrapped up in the fate of ukraine. but how long will americans accept to pump money and weapons into this cause? if it becomes a forever war, american and european support is bound to whither? so what should ukraine do? it's damned if it compromises and damned if it doesn't. and both options have very tragic consequences. so as we head into a new year, we have nothing to look forward to, but a slow slog of back and forth victories and tragedies in freezing temperature. sadly, this war seems nowhere near to an end. and that's the bottom line, ah, trust is fundamentally to all our relationships. we trust banks without money, doctors, without really personal information. what happens to trust in a world driven by algorithms as more and more decisions are made for us by these complex pieces of code? the question that comes up is inevitable. we can we trust algorithms in the 1st over 5 part series ali, re questions the neutrality of digital deductions. trust me, i'm an algorithm on a just 0. a lot of the stories that we cover a high, the complex, so it's very important that we make them as understandable as we can do as many people as possible no matter how much they know about a given crisis or issue with the smell of death is overpowering as al jazeera correspondence, that's what we strive to do. lou lou again, i'm fully back to boeing. doha, with the headlines on al jazeera, former pope benedict. the 16th has died at the age of $95.00. he stepped down in 2013, after struggling with ill health. his body will be taken to saint peter's basilica where it will lie in state from monday. o francis will lead the funeral proceedings for his predecessor in.