peter pulumbo is the chairman. we have people from chile, india, across the board. we have an industrialist from india on the injury. so it's a terrific, diverse jury. >> charlie: what do they look for? >> the purpose of the prize is to honor a living architect who has made a contribution, a significant contribution to humanity and has done it through built environment and through the art of architecture, and that's sort of the prison through which they look for their next honoree. >> charlie: i can speak to this point. you and i are not steeped in the ideas of architecture, but we love architecture, coming to it as both connoisseurs and people who appreciate the skill of those who are gifted enough to understand the environment we live in and how to make functional and buildings that are both residential and institutional and commercial that served a remarkable purpose. it's why the people come to those places and get something special that happens to them because they inhabit it. that's what i like about architecture, it's a thing that has a continuance and perman