martha: we'll talk to peter roskam in the next hour who is looking for and i i.g.this. in other other sort of business relationship. if i lent you $300 million and i expect to you pay me back with interest. interest would be a successful program. i am going to want to see how it's going. i want you to tell me when imgoing to get my money back, how you are spending the money. why is the government so messed up with this? >> i have been a contractor to businesses and private industry. government is tougher to work with than private industry. but not with anding that. when i heard the contractors being interest viewed back in january, which was upset what they were doing was basically trying to manage relationships with payment officers rather than provide real services to government. and bottom line, if you are a contractor to government, you have a higher responsibility which it was clearly absent here. >> in the case of the federal website healthcare.gov, the contractor got rewarded with additional government contracts. this is the problem with government as a whol

congressman peter roskam from illinois. rick, for the passion as always. >>> want to update you now on the situation we've been following. live pictures there. we have confirmed that there has been a partial building collapse and now five-alarm fire in upper manhattan which followed reports of an explosion. four people have been transferred to the hospital. unspecified injuries. the building in question, located on 116th street and park avenue. the building is 1646 park avenue just above manhattan's upper east side. 116th street. of course, we'll continue to bring you details. and this just in, members of the joint terrorism task force have responded to the scene. they're interacting with the fire department and the police department. of course, this is just precautionary. there's no indication that this is terrorism. we'll continue to follow the details and bring them you to as we get them. >>> all right. when we come back, shoe. ers thinking twice about going to target according to some new data. some say they'll never re