with is a letter to the acting director saying that he can take this action, and in talking to peter shellstock this morning, peter said that he thought that was true as well. those are the two things we need. we need the money that is supposedly already going to the states and release of the equipment so we could go ahead and eyes it this fall. >> i appreciate it, sam. sam was known, when i was secretary of state as the "but" secretary of state. this is good, but -- appreciate your leadership, sam. let me take that back. i hate to be the person from the federal government saying let me see if i can help here. but let me help with that. >> we were in the a quandary of getting commissioner appointed temporarily, it ended up supporting the letter to go to the acting director but yeah, it really would help if we could get some push from the -- >> in your opinion, are these defunct decisions or decisions that have already been made? or what kind of decisions would we need to make that we would need commissioners to do? >> what we need to do is just push the organization to start getting some of thi

peter shellstock on housed a administration staff, on two points secretary reed raised certifications of a individual voting civil are ish shrewd by the executive director of the agency. they don't require a vote by the commission and similarly the release of funds to the states from the hava funding does not require action by the commission. those are nondiscretionary grants. >> secretary reed, i guess the point of my question is, and i appreciate staff helping out with it, that these decisions don't require a lot of discretion, correct? it is ones or zeroes, stamped yes or no, basically. i'm oversimplifying it but there is a process already in place we check off the boxes and if everything is okay then the certification is issued and or the money is issued. is that a fair assessment of it? >> absolutely. >> then i think we need to push to have that done. i think you're absolutely right. i don't think we need commissions necessarily. i will take that as a task. >> secretary fine from georgia. >> thank you for being here, congressman. you said a couple things earlier that i really app