well look this is the reason i like peter tatchell even though i'm a conservative and he's on the left because in truth he's absolutely right in a free society the way that you defend freedom the way you defend democracy is to have an open and full debate clearly i'm very concerned as a conservative there in schools that is not happening i really want to say and i hope it will come out in the next couple of weeks the full details of the circumstance here i hope it's true that aberdeen council is not having children thrown out of classes for expressing what are effectively traditionalist conservative views but how you can disagree with peter tatchell on the idea that society is made more free by open discussion whether that be in the democratic process in the council chamber in parliament or indeed in schools gentle really appreciate your time and your views interesting discussion political commentator andrew walker human rights activist peter tatchell thank you both. just a day after u.k. courts ruled the saudi arabia of lawful britain's biggest weapons manufacturer be insisted it won'

schools and an inclusive environments for all we discuss the issue with human rights activist peter tatchell political commentator andre will. i think from what we've seen obviously the people was was fairly challenging but i think it's within the bounds of reasonable debate and i think the teachers are actually quite stern and dismissive and maybe there is more to the exchange than was in the video but i think it's healthy and right that people's and teachers should have a robust exchange of views well i think peter set the tone for the debate by being quite measured and reasoned on the why deployment why they don't accept the ball is when we start pretending that somebody with male genitalia is in fact a woman i think the teacher was wrong to throw the boy out of the class and i think the boy was wrong to video the exchange however it is a fact that there are basically 2 genders are these morally wrong that anybody who says that should have any trouble from any public call for it say in the united kingdom or elsewhere where there are 2 genders male and female but there are people who have

fairer inclusive environment for all we ask little commentator andrew walker and rights activist peter tatchell to weigh in on the contrary to see. i think from what we've seen obviously the people was was fairly challenging but i think that's within the bounds of reasonable debate and i think the teachers are actually quite stern and dismissive and maybe there is more to the exchange than was in the video but i think it's healthy and right that people's and teachers should have a robust exchange of views think it is wrong and it is disruptive to video a private discussion between the pupil and the teacher that is deeply unfair to the teacher and it is deeply destructive i think the teacher was wrong to throw the boy out of the class and i think the boy was wrong to video the exchange however it is a fact that there are basically 2 genders i did is morally wrong that anybody who says that should have any trouble for the public or for it say in the united kingdom or elsewhere where there are 2 genders male and female but there are people who have variations of both server example intersex people

views interesting discussion there political commentator andrew walker human rights activist peter tatchell thank you both. just a day after u.k. courts ruled the saudi arabia of lawful britain's biggest weapons manufacturer b. insists that it won't stop supplying riyadh. we continue to support the u.k. government in providing equipment support and training and the government to government agreements between the united kingdom and saudi arabia will assist the results of the u.k. government's reconsideration of its decision making on the basis by the court once it's been made and stay the campaign against arms trade won a landmark legal challenge against the u.k. government they argued that british weapons are contributing to the human toll in yemen which has faced the saudi military campaign since 2015 court of appeal judges also criticised u.k. ministers for ignoring the risk to civilians when signing arms deals with riyadh really now puts pressure on downing street to suspend those agreements the un says that the yemeni conflict is the worst manmade humanitarian crisis in the world. a spo