i love it when they quote lines from their movies sox lay off peter vallone, jr., you can't ban cartoon characters in new york. [cheers and applause] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight was the obama administration's regulatory czar. i don't care what he says i'm going to run over there with the scissors. please welcome cass sunstein. [cheers and applause] hey, mr. sunstein thanks for coming on. all right. you have been a bit of my white whale for a few years. i've been ready to bring it hot and hard to you because -- [laughter] -- because in 2009 to 2012 you were administrator of white house office for information and regulatory affairs, unofficially known as obama's regulatory czar. those are two extremely unappealing words. regulatory czar, okay? communist king. now you have a book explaining yourself over here. it's called: "simpler the future of government." what was that like to be the regulatory czar you are the guy who strangled the economy in its crib, aren't you? >> the goal wasn't to strangle the economy. >> stephen: that was just a bonus. >> the economy is