for half a century, he and peter warner have been best friends.k to the pacific ocean where their friendship began. why do you guys get along so well, you know, all these years after the rescue? >> totau: i think that we feel strongly in us that we have something to helping one another. >> warner: yeah, and also-- >> totau: teaching one another on it. >> warner: and also, we have a common beliefs that got you through that trial on the island, you know, love, compassion and-- >> totau: yeah. >> warner: justice, unity. >> totau: we both believe in the same thing. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> williams: the teenagers composed a song when they were on the island of ata, "siosionoa"-- seeing nothing everyday. it takes mano back to a time when they were longing for home, and before they could ever imagine that their story might have lessons for us all. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ a little over a week after our story aired last april, peter warner died in a sailing accident. he had just turned 90. ( ticking ) to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means... grabbing a hold of wh

warner as well. the senior campaigns manager for peter and andre walker, a political commentator in windsor, all 3 of you. thank you very much for joining us here on the international on this saturday evening. it's a great, great to have you with us tonight. we'll start with ben harris kinney showing compassion to more species that does. that's a good thing, isn't it? it can be but, but legislation is, is not one line legislation is very complicated. and a lot of concerns have been raised about this bill that there are going to be many unintended consequences in terms of what we mean for fishermen, for full food production for the final cost to the consumer. and i think there's also a question of why it is being done. now. we have a global and domestic pandemic that we are still struggling to get through. there is going to be a huge economic pulling out from it. and it smacks, i think, to a lot of people, including myself as a bit of virtue, sickening and taking time in parliament where there are many, many other more pressing and urgent prices. well, i think they might always be that argument. they

that is sort of the big thing, peter, because you and i can go house hunting and find our dream home. but until we know how to pay for it, it's meaningless. with mark warner not providing those details, how does anybody back this thing? when you go back to your constituents, their number one question is, am i going to pay? >> the spending part is the easy part. everyone likes to spend money, especially other people's money, it's how you pay for it. you're absolutely right and that's going to be the nub for a lot of members of congress, can you find enough taxes, only on the wealthy, on corporations, the kind of things that president biden has talked about, that will fund this amount of money in a reasonable way, in other words, not in a magical accounting kind of way. you already hear talk on capitol hill about using some of the accounting tricks that have been used in the past that didn't fully fund past spending projects, assuming economic growth that you don't know is going to happen, that kind of thing. and there's been a lot of assumptions in the hard infrastructure bill about what can be used to fund that, whether or not the beefed-up irs can bring

we'll have you talk to him about that later, because senator warner has arrived via video.and i also want to mention, senator petersl work with our witnesses for restroom breaks and the like and let us know so that we don't want to take a long break, but i can imagine you need a break at some point here. so senator warner. senator warner: thank you, madam chairman. and thank you to the witnesses for appearing today. we've talked a little bit about the deployment or lack of deployment of the national guard. and one of the questions, i guess, mr. sund, or frankly, or chief contee, the fact that the district did not have the ability to bring the guard to the table because of, frankly, that they're not a state and mayor bowser was not treated, i think, in a totally fair fashion in this. this may be outside your lane, but her inability to bring the guards to the table and actually any of you on the panel can answer this, that to me is a reflection of the disempowerment of the district. on a going forward basis, at least in terms of being able to deploy the guard, shouldn't the mayor of the district of columbia have the