peter yarrow did that. harry belafonte is one of the most dignified, well-educated, lucid, focused, eloquent men i have ever met in my life and has a sense of humanity to him and a sense of-- of what really matters. i wish i could run him for president. he wouldn't take the job. but he's a truly wonderful human being, and he was certainly one of the most astounding interviews. the man is a walking history book. you know, he was walking next to martin luther king at all of those things. it was him. he was there. he was the guy next to him, and he told us stuff that you won't believe. if the six bullet story doesn't make your hair stand on end and make you want to cry, i didn't-- now you have to tell it. you do need to tell it. do you? okay, i'll tell it. in the harry belafonte interview, he said, "i went--" in this wonderful, whispery voice, "i went to an event with dr. king, "and when i arrived there, there was a large man, "a sheriff, who looked at me with hatred, "with real anger in his eyes. "and i could

and peter, paul, and mary, before they were peter, paul, and mary-- when they were peter yarrow and maryl stookey. but we all felt, as i did at that early time, that we could make a difference and that music would change the world. and i believe it did. mary always says, "yes, we thought it would change the world, and it did change the world." certainly there were a lot of taboos that were broken, a lot of things from the '50s that changed-- the illusions about america's invulnerability. the war went on for far too long. but perhaps if there hadn't been all those voices behind the peace movement, it would have gone on longer. who knows? i can only say that the-- the passion and the music were a great and driving force. and i've always felt that it was a privilege to be a part of that journey, even though it was difficult to make at the time. you never made a conscious decision to be an artist versus being an activist. you--you were both from the beginning of your career, really. what was your first kind of public political move? picketing-- were you marching? what did--when did you enter

peter yarrow of peter, paul and mary. he published the book.s and cracker jacks ♪ ♪ i don't care if i ever get back ♪ ♪ 'cause it's root, root, root ♪ ♪ for the home team if they don't win ♪ ♪ it's a shame 'cause it's one, two ♪ ♪ three strikes you're out at the old ball game ♪ >> yay. >> that's the part that everybody knows. but tell me about katie case who comes up in the second set of lyrics, who is the star of your book. >> well, jack norworth, who wrote the lyrics, i'm told was on a train passing by yankees stadium or giants stadium. and i don't know what he used, tin pan alley or what was his intention. but he wrote the words and gave them to a friend of his who was a composer. he set the words to music. and it's just about entered the greatest songs of all-man kind. >> you can hear it if you buy the book. and on the cd, as well. >> it's a great book. and the song is, of course, the unofficial mascot song of baseball. and it's sung in just about every seventh inning stretch everywhere with every major league baseball team. >> carly simon,