you're in particular -- europe in petiti -- particular. u.s.o get off the fence and make the waiver happen. host: this deal visor and beyond tech have signed to send the process to south africa, they are not going to start producing that until the end of next year, with distribution early in 2023. it seems a very long way off, considering we know how quickly variants seem to appear. >> i agree with you. when you look at it from a scientific point of view, it's common sense. you're not supposed to take this risk, leaving huge numbers of population without a vaccine. it's a terrible thing, terrible decision. new variant sent after coming back and starting another pandemic. i think the europeans and americans are playing good cop and bad cop. they're just trying to buy time. the position for the companies is a strong one. my question would be, what all the alternatives? what should we do? just let these countries by time, go through next year. when they talk about variant in africa, we're are talking the whole world. should we just let this countr