in our case, he made the decision that the petitioner was not lawfully detain. we want our habeas corpus petition in front of judge kennedy. the government has appealed that and we're now in the court of appeals with respect to our particular case. in another case, shortly before our trial with different facts, judge kennedy denied the writ of habeas corpus. and i think the record of how that judges have decided the habeas cases is one that reflects that judges are doing exactly what judge kennedy did in our case. they're listening to the evidence, they are weighing the facts, they are applying those facts to the law. that is appropriate. that is what judges do. i want to conclude with some personal observations that i have, having gone through this process. the first one is -- behind the process, fair question. they're people that have been locked up in guantanamo -- in one case unjustly, 8.5 years. how much longer must the weight? thomas longer must his mother way? how much longer must his son, now almost nine years old, wait while congress and the courts go t