commission president mazzucco, no, vice president marshall, how do you vote, no, commissioner petra dejesus, how do you vote, yes, commissioner jim hammer, how do you vote, aye. commissioner angela chan, how do you vote, yes commissioner chan: because the community has been alerted about this already. >> commissioner carol kennels how do you vote? -- carol kingsley how do you vote? >> no. >> commissioner hammer. >> it shouldn't be a requirement by the terms of the motion. if i voted yes. but i do think that it's the courteous thing to do, commissioner mazzucco, to certainly when we're done with this reach out to supervisor campos and explain the reasons for what we're doing and emphasize our commitment to the meeting and to community policing. president mazzucco: i will do that. >> the amendment fails 3-4. president mazzucco: so the next motion the original motion. to postpone/continue the joint board of supervisors public saist meeting and police commission meeting regarding the definition of community policing. do i have a second? >> second. take role. >> roll call vote on the motion. com