we saw petraeus who had documents in his house. it was the documents were found, he was criminally charged. no one is saying she should be criminally charged, we don't know crime has been committed but enough fbi is looking into this and seeking a warrant. we know she had documents on the server and given them to the lawyer to keep in the safe which is not a skiff, the proper means for keeping classified information in his office. so the documents that have been identified as classified by the inspector general are in the possession of her lawyer on a thumb drive like all of us carry in a safe which who knows how many people have a combination for. we know that's a violation of the law. the u.s. code and executive order issued by president obama. where is the fbi going to get the documents? why aren't they serving a warrant like they did on petraeus? why is she getting a pass. lou: does the fbi need an order from the attorney general to do so? they have evidence on them every night, particularly on this broadcast. >> the d.o.j. wou

clearly petraeus knew they were classified.ou wouldn't put them in a safe if they weren't. >> inspector generals would disagree with that would they not? >> they have and the question is what did she know and when did she know it. clearly, she said herself at the news conference at the security council, she's done classification she knows how that works. none of this stuff would have been stamped classified at the time but because she was sending it. it wasn't as if she had received it. but she should have known, if she didn't obviously it's on her head. the thing is she will get away with it i think in terms of legality but she is suffering hugely politically. what she cares about is the presidency. she's now 20 points under water on the question of honesty. that's real -- that's enough to kill a campaign. >> this federal judge has insured there will be this steady drip drip drip of release releasing of e-mails on the polling front. let's take a look at the latest real clear politics average. she was up something like 61 point

. >> i am glad you brought that up everyone comparing to general petraeus general petraeus treated moreshly. >> it is. >> so far. >> it is a question of equal treatment under the law. >> john. >> talk to us about the server, at the e-mails were erased from server, clinton has said that look we have taken everything off, that was -- that was -- kind of related to this issue, and personal to me, and that wasn't done she says, with any mall ev lens can zbi reconstruct that. >> they maybe able to in today's world anything that is on a server, or trafficked you know electronically is never foyle cable of being deleted, to say the fbi has access to pretty sophisticated techniques to recover anything that once may have been on that server even if attempts made to deleted light. >> if steps not being covered you mean. >> i think lyle to find out the something now you know there are people, who are sophisticated capable of erasing without a trace not something average person is capable of doing. >> politically how much does this hurt her how far goes does it needy to go to do real damage to her

clinton the way they treated general petraeus, now, i have not seen the e-mails that the two inspectoreral referred to fbi but i have seen public. kennedy: a request made that was fulfilled, and you saw some of those. >> i will tell you. mrs. clinton sending and receiving remails about -- e-mas about, tell me, location of french fighter jets in their maneuver to support nato, when they were bombing gadhafi government in libya, the areas no-fly zones. kennedy: you can have a hacker who finds that then sell its yeah that is -- >> i'll give you another one, this one emotional, location of ambassador stevens in libya, he was assassinated by al qaeda operatives using american military equipment that mrs. clinton facilitated sale of that ended up in hands of the bad guys, the government has three classifications, of classifies material, top secret, information that if revealed would harmly national security, secret, that if revealed would y harm, and confidenc confidential petraeus' calendar, is what they found. kennedy: his calendar not talking about fighter jets or location of a u.s. ambas

general petraeus a different end. he narrowly avoided jail, two years probation, $100,000 fine. how are those cases different than mrs. clinton's? >> they're completely different. you're talking about classified information. i think part of the problem we have here -- and by the way, ike that former attorney general mukasey did a very good job as an advisor to jeb bush but i was embarrassed by his complete lack of understanding of the federal records act, the low side and high side, classified/unclassified systems at the state department and going way out there and talking about things like the espionage act and perjury when this is not a criminal investigation. this is about the low side computer system at the state department which is unsecure which only carries unclassified e-mails. that's what we're talking about. and to some extent we're talking about whether some e-mails, some people in the intelligence community and some people in the state department differ on whether they should be classified one way or the other. but what is clear is that while she was secretary, hilla

the same investigative committee, harris, that was investigating petraeus, that went after petraeus, and punished petraeus, is the same one that is following hillary clinton's lead and the hill has a very interesting piece with a source that says the outcome is likely to be the same. what i don't understand is she continues to lie about this and laughing it off. her jokes over the weekend, i think you mentioned them yesterday, the snapchat joke and liking it because they disappear on her own, this is not a laughing matter when you have alphabet soup of scrutiny. and we learned from the daily mail that the firm holding her server kept it in the bathroom. >> how about her lawyer who is holding on to not just the server but the three thumb drives and the lawyers' classified status or lack there of. >> this entire staff. lawyers doing their own e-mails >> let's get the duplicate server. >> this goes to a lack of trustworthiness and the lack of double standard. >> on some level this is stupid. >> so was lying about the monica until there was a dna stain. i think this is their playbook. th

clinton the way they treated general petraeus.i have not seen the e-mails that the two inspector's general referred to the fbi but i've seen the public e-mails. kennedy: so there was a foya request made that was finally fulfilled and you saw the e-mails, what did they tell you? >> i will tell you what i saw mrs. clinton sending and receiving e-mails about -- is this classified or confidential? the location of french fighter jets in their maneuvers to support nato when they were bombing colonel gadhafi's government in libya. the location of no-fly zones in libya. which would be enforced and not enforced? kennedy: if you find a hacker who sifts through that information and finds that interesting and sells it to a nefarious state actor, yeah, that is absolutely classified. >> another example, this is a little emotional. the location of ambassador stevens in libya. now ambassador stevens was assassinated by al qaeda operatives using american military equipment that mrs. clinton facilitated the sale of that ended up in the hands of the

clinton the way they treated general petraeus. not seen the e-mails that the two inspector's general referred to the fbi but i've seen the public e-mails. kennedy: so there was a foya request made that was finally fulfilled and you saw the e-mails, what did they tell you? >> i will tell you what i saw mrs. clinton sending and receiving e-mails about -- is this classified or confidential? the location of french fighter jets in their maneuvers to support nato when they were bombing colonel gadhafi's government in libya. the location of no-fly zones in libya. which would be enforced and not enforced? kennedy: if you find a hacker who sifts through that information and finds that interesting and sells it to a nefarious state actor, yeah, that is absolutely classified. >> another example, this is a little emotional. the location of ambassador stevens in libya. now ambassador stevens was assassinated by al qaeda operatives using american military equipment that mrs. clinton facilitated the sale of that ended up in the hands of the bad g

in the "washington post" former general petraeus co-authored an op-ed piece saying there can be little doubt that a deal leaves us far better off and we don't believe if congress blocks the deal a better one will be negotiated. the support of general petraeus is weeks before congressional vote on the deal. 29 democratic senators have announced their support for the deechlt only two have announced oppositions, senator schumer and senator menendez, 15 undecide. the president needs only five of them to support the deal and sustain his veto if congress votes against the deal. joining us now is one of the key negotiators at secretary kerry's side throughout the process, undersecretary of state for political affairs, wendy shermanen. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> it must come as a surprise to you that you are now in a position to have to respond to criticism being offered by donald trump who clearly now has a bigger microphone than any of the republicans in washington who are arguing against this deal. i want to play something that donald trump said last

petraeus pled guilty to a misdemeanor and was find and sentenced to probation.linton are saying that the petraeus comparison was unfair, because his was intentional. in contrast, clinton said that her personal email system was linked to the mishandling of government information, it was inadvertent. >> in retrospect, this didn't turn out to be convenient at all. and i regret that it's such a cause celebra. >> it's a request. and they turned over the emails to the state department, not in digital form with the metadata attached but in 35,000 printed pages, and then they deleted emails that they it deemed personal and tried to wipe the server. >> we have turned over the server and they can do whatever they want with the server to figure out what they want to there. that's for the people investigating it to figure it out. >> law enforcement circumstantials say that the fbi will try to recreate some of the information on the server, and in terms of handling of the classified material, the investigation will try to determine if mrs. clinton tried to delete emails that

the same person who prosecuted petraeus is looking into this. the same person who represented petraeus is now representing hillary clinton. >> howard kirk, rick laurie, welcome. >> hi, there. >> hi. >> rick, i'll start with you. you think hillary isn't one of those on the left who had a super cozy relationship with the media. >> she's a very cautious person, very guarded with the press and hasn't established relationships. an there is history, when you spend years defending your husband from bimbo eruptions you have a combative history with the media. and now, on top of this, shannon millen can look and say that was a bad press conference and no one believes her. >> when you see them, we think about using robinson. when you see them saying she's got problems, i mine, is it that there is just so much information that continues to trickle out that they can can't pretend like it's not an issue? >> hillary clinton was never a wild favorite of the left wing press, but writing she's insulting our intelligence with her mishandling and answers of the e-

petraeus got two years' probation and a $100,000 fine.t the server in her home, in an unauthorized location, and they have now found top-secret documents on that server from her documents that were on that server. petraeus was only confidential which is the lowest for documents. >> i spoke specifically to the campaign and press secretary, evan, and i know you're speaking to sources as well. the campaign says there has been a dispute and was ongoing between the state department and intelligence community about whether the documents should be classified. they say they were not classified at the time, so it's not their fault. what is the clinton campaign now saying about this? she long resisted turning over this private server but clearly now has. >> she has turned it over, kate, and she has also done this without receiving a subpoena. she wanted to make sure it was clear she was cooperating with the fbi but, look, it's never good for the fbi to be nosing around your computer server. nobody ever should want that. and so that's what the clint

when i look, chris, at what happened with petraeus, on a much smaller level., wonderful guy. everyone loves him and they have destroyed his life over much less. >> that was donald trump an hour ago. we have all learned not to take our legal guidance from trump. pete williams explains what the fbi is looking at and how it compares to the case of general petraeus. >> it's an issue that won't go away with a federal inquiry and members of congress demanding answers, what is the fbi investigating? federal agents are looking at whether classified information was compromised. they got that assignment after intelligence officials said some e-mails publicly released from her private server contain classified information, like this one sent to her in november 2012 about possible arrests in benghazi redacted, in part, before it was released. or this one sent by her close aide on deteriorating conditions in benghazi. mrs. clinton said the didn't think any of those e-mails were classified. >> i did not send or receive any material that was marked or designated classified,

>> ann tompkins, she oversaw the general petraeus prosecution.pled guilty to a misdemeanor of leaking classified documents. she said, based on the fact the comparison has no merit. let me read a little bit. the key issue that distinguishes the e-mail retention practices from petraeus' sharing of classified information is that petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability." if you remember, he was taking a lot of classified information, putting it in journals and shared that knowingly with paula broadwell and that's why he was found guilty of charges. people i've spoke to said, look, secretary clinton practiced bad habit but it was not criminal. >> that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. in "the situation room." "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >>> brianna keilar, thank you so much, my friend. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. thank you for being here with me on this monday. we have to begin with this accused cop killer stepping before the judge breaking the court silenc

clinton believes the petraeus intervention was unfair, his approach was intentional. clinton says her email system was linked to the mishandling of government information it was inadvertent. >> in retrospect i regret it's a cause celeb ra. >> the former secretary of state and confidante sheryl mills decided by themselves which emails were relevant to administration and congregsal request. they turned over the emails to the state department, not in digital form, with the meta data. but in print pages, and deleted emails they considered personal and erased the home server. >> in order to be as cooperative as possible, we have turned over the server. they can do what they want to figure out what is there or not there. that's for the people there to investigate to figure out. >> reporter: law enforcement say the fbi will be able to recreate some of the deleted information on the server. anything to tracing the handle. investigators will try to determine if mrs. clinton tried to eliminate emails that might have been of interest to congressional investigators. such could qu

it's actually not like david petraeus. it's different in this respect. david petraeus passed on classified information that was marked classified at the time. the clinton campaign is saying that secretary clinton and her staff did not pass along any information that was marked classified at the time. it later maybe became classified. so a couple distinctions there, a couple differences. but overall today the e-mail server will probably switch to the back burner, and hillary clinton and donald trump will be at the iowa state fair at the same time as well as bernie sanders. so more fireworks of a different kind today in iowa here at the state fair. guys, back to you. >> all right, we'll look forward to hearing more about that. thank you, sir. >>> now, consider the day as jeff said, you've got donald trump. you've got hillary clinton there at the iowa state fair. bernie sanders as well. now, while they are there, both rivals along with a fiery jeb bush. they're not mincing words when it comes to their opponents. listen. >> but jeb bush has $114 million. wha

because obviously email brought down general petraeus. and it wrecked his career. can you tell me if there's any differences in this issue? guest: well, ooh major difference between the two is that petraeus knowingly and purposefully was sending classified information, and in case, if she sent classified information, she wouldn't have been sending it to an outside source like general petraeus. it would have been talking within the state department to other state department and government officials over her private email address act information that would be or could be considered classified. so there's a big difference between leaking classified information on purpose and that ently discussing information. guest: the issue here is only that she did it over a private email address on a private server, because the government can't protect her. they can't protect the email or that server from being hacked going back to sidney bloomen that. this is how a lot of us found out about this in the first place. emails between she and her were hacked and made public because hi

that is a stretch. >> jude i, you are over here shaking your head. >> we know in the case of petraeus, that he knew their the information was classified, it is up to government to prove if they can, that she knew or should have known. >> that thing to we learn well intent. >> i am not a lawyer but i know that from serving my time in court. >> that would be worse if she did not know what was not classified. >> mistake, people moving forward no one will do this. >> it is bad she kept doing this, and nobody said anything earlier. >> other bizarre part about it is, she traveled very proudly went to 112 countries, she was working hard, she was always on a plane, always coming and going from some foreign country. so, what difference does it make if server was in her backyard and chappaqua, it could -- it should have been in state department for heaven's sake. >> it should have been, and listen to, that 5 of the 40 e-mail they look at are now determined to have been classified. that is 1/8 of e-mails that are looked at, there are thousands. the idea that she may not have known, it is to me p

so he is able to gain new support for his strategy thanks to the fact the general david petraeus and general stanley mcchrystal are moving on and you have more political support for the president moving into senior positions so we get the president to buy off on this strategy and we will use our drones in special operations forces to kill any enemies that happen to be here and by the way this then becomes a tragic not just for afghanistan but for the u.s. presence read large, conveniently allow the administration to say we don't need big ground forces because we can use special operations and drones. >> let's talk about drones for a second. when we talk about the hands of small footprint approach to american conflict american power everywhere but particularly in the war on terror this has become a hallmark of the obama administration. the numbers of creditor drone attacks if you chart the mom am mom aon a graph from the bush administration is a straight curve up and it is the principle to buy which obama and his advisers deal with the terrorist threat, the terrorist threat they dare

let me back up for a second and say that the petraeus parallels, david petraeus he gave classified informationo his mistress. he gave it to someone. that is a far more serious charge than even the worst case so far against hillary clinton. this is a drip-drip and they don't seem to want to big knowledge it based on jennifer yesterday, so i say this is at least incremental plus-plus. john: i think it's halfway between incremental and monumental. the fbi is only investigating the server to find out if it was secure. this story directly contradicts that. it says that the fbi wants to know how the messages got to her. the focus seems to be more on her aides who send messages than on her at this point, but the questions for people around hillary clinton -- is it possible they were looking at classified material and then summarizing it and sending it to her to try to skirt the classification laws? all of these things are troubling. they are troubling for hillary clinton and the aides. again, it's not monumental, but it's not good. jimmy carter was making jokes and he looked upbeat this morning, but

the same person who prosecuted petraeus is looking into this.ame person who represented petraeus is now representing hillary clinton. >> howard kirk, rick laurie, welcome. >> hi, there. >> hi. >> rick, i'll start with you. you think hillary isn't one of those on the left who had a super cozy relationship with the media. >> she's a very cautious person, very guarded with the press and hasn't established relationships. an there is history, when you spend years defending your husband from bimbo eruptions you have a combative history with the media. and now, on top of this, shannon millen can look and say that was a bad press conference and no one believes her. >> when you see them, we think about using robinson. when you see them saying she's got problems, i mine, is it that there is just so much information that continues to trickle out that they can can't pretend like it's not an issue? >> hillary clinton was never a wild favorite of the left wing press, but writing she's insulting our intelligence with her mishandling and answers of the e-mail d

could it be like the case against former general david petraeus? he pleaded guilty to mishandling classified information. clinton supporters say that was different. >> you had someone who knew he was holding on to classified information, admitted on tape that he knew the information was classified, and then took it and turned it over to someone who was not authorized to view that information. >> reporter: but a former republican attorney general says mrs. clinton could be charged just as petraeus was for keeping classified material where it shouldn't be. >> the place in his case was his home. in her case it's her private e-mail server. so the question then becomes whether she was the one who caused it to be done and whether she knew that the information on there was classified. >> reporter: could others be charged with a crime? legal experts say that would take proof they knew they were putting classified material into her unclassified server or were grossly negligent in doing it. faced with more e-mail questions today, her campaign said nothing th

same thing, senator. >> i happen to like david petraeus.hat i'm about to say is not intended to be toward him. but i do think there is a difference between knowingly sharing information to someone who is your mistress at the time, writing a book. >> so because he had a mistress. here is the thing. 61,000 e-mails, not one classified? that tells me she wasn't doing her job or someone knows something. i want to thank you. it's great having you on. >> thank you, judge. >>> and the raise for the white house is in full swing. many presidential candidates chomping on corn dogs to deliver their message at the iowa state fair. now, go pac strategist, good evening, david. >> judge, good to be with you. >> hillary is blaming republicans saying this is all about politics. is she right? >> judge, if clinton were a term in the dags -- dictionary it would be defined evasiveness. this is because her changing her story. for republicans we need to make sure an easy layup doesn't turn into a three-point shot and allow the facts to come out because she's on ou

you asked jen the question yesterday about the documents that get general petraeus charged. a question. she had no answer to. >> this classification was a complicated thing. they made a call, the clinton people, to make the point that there is disputes between agencies about what should be classified, all that stuff. the bottom line is that the law says -- >> they talk about the -- >> the law says that it doesn't matter whether the document is marked classified or not. it's not about the markings. that's not what the law goes. to the law goes to the information inside the documents. so in the petraeus case, the documents over which he was prosecuted and convicted were unmarked documents that were determined to be classified. and the primary responsibility for determining whether a document is classified or not resides with the public official. mike mckay is a former attorney general and wrote a powerful op-ed where he said there is no classification angel that sits on your shoulder. if you're the secretary of state, you have to be looking at documents and saying are these se

it led to the indootment of general petraeus, led to the indictment of sandy berger.d to the indictment of james misleading classified information. it's a very serious matter. she doesn't have any explanation of her erases 31,000 e-mails. that's an 18-minute gap, it's an 18,000-minute gap. >> do the democrats need a plan b, look you have joe biden, right now, deciding whether he'll get into the race. >> first of all, this is not a criminal indictment and she did nothing wrong. the fact they are now saying that some of the e-mails that have been released should have been classified. >> let's get into joe biden. >> the hillary folks know that this is a problem, by the tenure by which they're responding to this. bernie sanders, right now, is rising faster than anybody else. she's dropping. there's now a conversation about joe biden. there is a problem. they go into the general election with a wounded warrior which is a big problem. >> and she says don't panic. don't panic. her supporters say don't panic. >> i would advise as a former campaign manager, i would advise them

general petraeus, his life was destroyed. with a tiny fraction of what she's done. so, it's very unfair to him if they're going to destroy him over doing by comparison nothing. i don't see how she can run. i think she's got much bigger problems than running for office. >> reporter: so, fred, this is happening before the candidates even arrive at the iowa state fair. both hillary clinton and donald trump will be here today, so it will be interesting to see if there are any more fireworks between the two of them. >> sara murray, let's talk more things iowa here with our cnn political director, david, let's talk about the soapbox moment at the state fair. most candidates embracing it. jeb bush, in fact, using his 20-minute speech to address the crowds and kind of vow to fix what he seays are the country's broken systems but not hillary clinton and not donald trump, they will not be taking to the soapboxes, but, you know, they're front and center in iowa. so, help us understand why this is. we know clinton last night at the democratic wing ding she did have that snapcha

petraeus, okay? he had classified information at home. and he gave it to his american biographer. >> who also had a clearance. >> yes. hillary had classified information, also at home, and she gave it to russian hackers and chinese hackers. most likely. i think that's worse. >> you think? >> it goes to the point she doesn't care about e-mail security or embassy security. she doesn't care about border security. and we're supposed to trust her with the codes to the nuclear football. what is she going to leave anytime ladies room? seriously. >> it's a residential apartment. in colorado. this is the secretary of state, kimberly. i know juan thinks i'm overreaching. but she should go to jail! >> it's awful. and believe me, if it was someone else of a different political party or persuasion, trust me they'd be in cuffs already. i'm not kidding you. this is to me unbelievable. people can still just say we're just going to vote for he. let her make snap chat jokes when national security is at stake. she's she is not running for class president it

if you look at general petraeus is tiny fraction what she has done.r less important than the documents she is talking about. so many mistakes were made by her and so many lies were made. david: byron, did hillary endanger national security more than petraeus? >> we don't really know that right now but the most important fact in the whole case that the fbi is involved. this is not trey gowdy going after former secretary of state. this is the fbi, really, really important. it does raise pressure on obama administration, they through the book at david petraeus and let this go? david: raises profile of biden, does it not? >> i guess so. david: all right. thank you, gang. good stuff. >> thank you. david: coming up how republicans are poking fun at hillary and her poor server joke. >> you were the official in charge. did you wipe the server? >> you mean with a cloth or something. >> i don't know. it's more than the cloud. it's security - and flexibility. it's where great ideas and vital data are stored. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions

why should general petraeus be indicted and not hillary? they both have classified information not on a government e-mail. same thing, senator. >> i happen to like david petraeus, and so what i'm about to say is not intended to be a pejorative to him but i do think there's a difference between knowingly and sharing classified information with someone who is your mistress at the time and writing a book and hillary or her aides making inadvertent mistakes. i think there's a significant difference there. >> so because he had a mistress. here's the thing. 61,000 e-mails, not a one classified. that tells me she either wasn't doing her job or somebody's hiding something. i want to thank you for being with us tonight. it really is great having you on, senator. >> thank, judge. >> all right. and the race for the white house is in full swing. many of the presidential candidates chomping on corn dogs to deliver their message at iowa state fair. with me now is the president of the republican political organization gopac strategist david abella. good e

i think -- it would be very, very unfair to general petraeus.ill tell you, you know when you look at what she has done and how she has done it. and the servers. and huma, huma is one of the people it all sort of game through huma. who is huma married to? one of the great sleaze bags of our time. anthony weiner. did you know that? she is married to anthony weiner. you know, the little bing, bing, bing, i love you very much. now, think of it. so huma is getting classified secrets. she is married to anthony weiner. who is a perv. no, he is. he is. so she is married. now these are confidential documents. she is married to this guy who is, and guess what happens to anthony weiner? a month ago, i see he went to work for a public relations firm. do you believe it? now, if you think that huma isn't telling anthony who she is probably desperately in love with in all fairness to anthony, why else would she marry this guy? could you believe it. can't see straight. look, think of it. so huma, it is coming through huma, a lot of stuff, a lot of information,

general petraeus was destroyed over much lesser crimes. so we'll see what happens. >> you can see donald trump is not ramping down his controversy over hillary clinton at all today. standing by that. even saying that this e-mail controversy could be what thwarts her campaign. >> let's pull jeff back into the shot. i think he got his microphone back on there. hey, jeff, it's poppy here. let's talk about your interaction with hillary clinton just a few hours ago. that become and forth about her e-mails. >> sure, poppy. this is a day of photo ones and pounding the pavement. but that doesn't mean the campaign stops. and it doesn't mean the controversy stops. and the private e-mail controversy is really hanging over her campaign. she made a bit of a joke of it last night at the surf ballroom in clear lake, iowa. she said she's using snapchat now so her e-mails can disappear. but we asked her if it was a serious problem. and if it will affect her in the general election. let's take a listen to what she said. >> it's not anything that people talk

different from david petraeus, more serious if you think about it. >> well, obviously the server hasn turned over, all of this information will be gone through, i think at the end of the day, we're going to determine what we know right now -- that this is just a lot of political partisan smoke. that secretary clinton behaved the way she should as secretary of state. and did a terrific job while she was there. >> how much do you think this hurts her going forward? this could take a long time. >> i think the american people get what this is, i think they know that she has a record of being a fighter, she's going to fight through this primary, she's going to win this nomination. this is a woman with decades of a records as a champion for the middle class in the country. when people make up their mind next november, it is going to be about which policies and which candidate shows strength and stability, i think she's going to be in great shape. >> and, senator, i want to turn to your new book lately, you detail several instances -- of sexual harassment, sexism during your time as a repre

kennedy: a tiny sampling. >> general petraeus' information of confidential.at is lowest. >> he was indicted and convicted, hers is top-secret that is most serious, highest level of security. kennedy: is her lawyer been carrying top-secret information in a thumb drive? >> in three. state department told him he could because he told them how he was ser curing it fbi say said, the custodian of this, lawyer and person who runs safe, none of them have a national security clearance, fbi went to place he said he was storying it said give it to us. he did. thens same thing with her server. kennedy: why did she turn it over. >> if she had resisted, it would have been politically humiliating, wouldn't it was clear that information was top-secret no lawful justification for her to have kept it. kennedy: she did that to save face, is it more serious than you previously thought. >> yes, i would describe her legal situation now as grave. that is how serious this is. the idea that a prosecutor appointed by a democratic president is a democrat, and will not indict another de

you look at petraeus. he was destroyed over less events. >> his were marked classified. >> i think some of hers were. i think they took a lot of markings off. >> any worry republicans could play their hand on the e-mail controver controversy? >> it is what it is. it was a foolish thing. there was no reason to do it. >> in the debate, i made the statement that hillary clinton has lied. she lied about benghazi. she lied about her server and she lied about her e-mails. there were some that found that harsh, although a majority of americans agree with me. >> dr. ben carson, the number two candidate and latest in the poll, is trying to clarify his views on abortion. he was asked last week to square his research on fetal tissue in the 1990s with the current criticism of planned parenthood. he was asked at the iowa state fair to explain when he thinks life begins. >> what i believe is life starts at conception. i said there are a lot of people who think that it is at the heart beat. i think most people can come t

i think it would be very, very unfair to general petraeus. i will tell you, when you look at what she's done and how she's done it and the servers and uma. here's the story. so uma now is one of the people that came through, who's uma married to? one of the great sleaze bags of our time. anthony weiner. did you know that? she's married to anthony weiner, you know the bing bing bing, i love you very much. think of it. so uma is getting classified secrets. she's married to anthony weiner, who's a perv. he is. so she's married. now these are confidential documents. she's married to this guy and -- guess what happens to anthony wiener, a month ago i see he went to work for a public relations firm. do you believe it? if you think that uma isn't telling anthony, who she is probably desperately in love with all fairness to anthony because why why else would she marry this guy? can you believe it? can't see straight. look, think of it. so yuma, it is coming through uma. she has a lot of stuff, a lot of information, who knows. so she is married to a b