speech careers included general petraeus, and grant biographers. general petraeus interviewed the two historians. all for joining us tonight. welcome everyone, good evening. i want to thank you all for joining us tonight. on the evening of general and president ulysses s grant's 200th birthday. this historic milestone comes at a time when grants star is rising. ulysses s grant is being commemorated in proclamations and other special messages issued by states across the nation. the district of columbia, and leaving u.s. presidents. we have included in our dinner programs just one of the proclamations from grants birth state of ohio, and all presidential messages that were available at the time of printing. what's stands out in these messages, also stands out in history's understanding of grant during the 21st century. appreciation of his accomplishments, is a no longer confined to his military career, in which he was the principal author of union victory during the civil war. and now extends to his presidency which included benchmarks in peace and e

general general petraeus, and grant biographers. general petraeus interviewed the two historians. welcome everyone, good evening. i want to thank you all for joining us tonight. on the evening of general and president ulysses s grant's 200th birthday. [applause]

and general petraeus loves to tell the story that here is grant. i don't think he wants to go into the field hospital where men are having their legs and arms amputated. he's standing under a tree the rain is coming down sherman comes upon him and says to the effect why we have really been beaten today. and grant says amen, a few words. yes, but we'll whip them tomorrow. think of one other really remarkable moment. this was when the grant starts out on may 4 1864 in the overland campaign. the first place they enter is the wilderness. he has an army at least twice as large as leave, but once he enters that wilderness, and i've walked that wilderness it's this compacted scrubbo. trees four five feet high and his advantage in cavalry is gone. his advantage in artillery is not possible. the term is not yet present, but friendly fire begins to take place as men fall out of line and begin shooting not exactly sure who they're shooting and then in the middle of the day the forest catches fire. begins to burn and men are burned to death. or they shoot them

joining me is david petraeus. general petraeus, thanks for joining us today.sia state media is reporting dugan was expected to be driving the car, but switched vehicles at the last minute. what are the implications of this? she was a well-known broadcaster putting putin propaganda out on state run media. >> alexander dugan was described as putin's brain, as you may recall. his daughter darya was a well known propagandist. it's not clear who carried out this action. there are various accusations. one could be some kind of dissident group in russia trying to take actions against putin, but that is not clear. it's not entirely possible this is some kind of inside job because alexander dugan had fallen out of favor a bit in recent times and the invasion is not going well. without knowing more about what really took place, it's still hard to assess what has transpired. >> it could become some sort of excuse for retaliation against ukraine. you have ukraine independence day this week. >> that is correct. president zelenskyy issued a warning to ukrainians that putin

so general david petraeus, former u.s.tan here with a look at where we are right now given all of this and of course given this major victory that happened several days ago. first to trey yingst live in jerusalem. >> good afternoon. the leader of al-quaida, ayman al-zawahiri is dead following a drone strike in afghanistan. the wanted terrorist had a bounty on his head for $25 million. he was sheltering among the civilian population in the capitol of kabul. reports indicate that he was killed with a hellfire missile. this was the first over the horizon strike for the united states since the taliban takeover amid concerns that u.s. officials would have difficulty conducting counter terrorism operations in afghanistan. the compound where the strike took place is being roped off with the taliban with journalists being denied for information. al-zawahiri joined al-quaida in 1998 and was osama bin laden's deputy he was in he was killed. he was involved in the u.s.s. cole and u.s. embassy bombings in africa. his death is signific

petraeus lied because he knew it was wrong.stion here is, there's conversation and interaction between the national or kais and trump camp. what did he say and what did he do? so obviously he didn't give everything back because the archives are saying, we want our documents bag. it may well be at the end of the day this case is about that. give us our documents back. they're important to national security. we're taking them back. but i may be more than that, because he lied about it or did something urn the table, not wanting people to see what he was doing. given his history, if it's true about ripping up documents and so forth, the national archive had a real concern about integrity and security of the documents. they got them. the question is, under what circumstances were they taken? under what circumstances were they kept? did he lie about it? that may be where the crime is. you have the seizure, and you have a lot more. we don't know the facts yet. that would make it the type of crime you talked about in the last segment.

general petraeus, appreciate you being with us. what is your reaction to this news?> well, it's very significant. it is a triumph for our intelligence community. it is significant that one of the original leaders of al-qaeda, a long time international extremist and terrorist has been brought to justice. it is perhaps, though, more symbolic, if you will, than it is of operational significance noting that, of course, the real threat in afghanistan if there is one of international extremism is really the islamic state affiliate there, the horasan group. that is the organization fighting the taliban as well causing instability in afghanistan. and that's the one we really have to keep an eye on even as, again, this is very significant take down of a very, very long-time and very significant extremist leader. >> the other thing it shows is the capability at least of the u.s. to -- to strike in -- in afghanistan, which was a question raised a lot in the wake of the withdrawal of u.s. forces from afghanistan. then, president biden had talked about fighting kind of over the h

and in conversation with ron charno and myself general petraeus ranks grant as the greatest american general with no comparison. he will tell the worry, we've done a convocation at west point together how he read grants memoirs as he prepared to lead the surge in iraq, and then he asked his generals his leaders to read grants memoirs because grant is this person there will be no turning back. well as senator blunt mentioned in his fine remarks grants star fell. the lost cause came forward quickly after the civil war put forward by both confederate generals and by newspaper editors arguing that the the best side had lost the more christian side the more chivalrous side and they lost only because they were overwhelmed by the larger union army the industrial might of the north and that butcher grant. and then as the south goes forward, we've been recently learning and reading about how monuments were raised in the south at the end of the 19th century. no one was willing to celebrate general ulysses s grant who willing to stand up for the freedmen. so one of the things that i think we've

thank you so much, general david petraeus on all fronts.this article on afghanistan. >> thanks, andrea. >> as we approach the anniversary. >>> and defeated. another republican voting for impeachment losing to a trump-backed candidate what does that mean for liz cheney in her primary in wyoming, that's next. steve kornacki with the full board breakdown. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. add-on trt for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. alrgic rctionsan occ. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that n cause shingles have occured. don't stop steroids unless told by yr doct. te your doctor if you have a rasitiinfectn. may cae headhe, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala. ♪ got my hair got my head ♪ back pain, and fatigue. introducing new one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+.

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and nato expander ercommander of tr afghanistan, general david petraeus. good to see you.round the world here, starting in afghanistan, the u.s. suggests the taliban knew al zawahiri was in kabul. this makes a mockery really of that core plank of the doha agreement saying the taliban wouldn't give shelter to terrorists. that always seemed naive. the question now is do you think the u.s. should hold the taliban accountable for sheltering zawahiri and if so, how? >> well, certainly we should. i think we have probably already started by we will now slow the pace of the release of that $3.5 billion of frozen taliban assets, now taliban assets, afghan assets, really, that the discussions had been to release through some mechanism that would get to the afghan people without enriching the taliban. i suspect that's going to move very, very slowly now. beyond that, while this is an extraordinary achievement by our intelligence and counterterrorism communities, it is also very, very concerning. as you noted, this indicates the taliban completely went back on their agreement, and at

army general david petraeus, the chairman of kkr global institute, which owns some defense contractingral does not work with the firms. general, taiwan's military says at least 11 chinese missiles struck the sea surrounding taiwan. 22 chinese warplanes entered the air defense zone earlier today. these are unprecedented steps from the chinese government. how do you interpret them? >> well, they are very muscular statements and very muscular actions, jake. although the eastern command of china said earlier today that it actually completed all of the live-fire exercises and that the maritime and airspace restrictions are have been lifted. it could be that we are starting to see this begin to wind down, though there are still temporary halts on certain exports from taiwan to china. i'm sure that the rhetoric will continue for days and that some of the repercussions could continue for weeks or even months. >> speaker pelosi's visit comes at a time when relations between washington and beijing had been strained. today we learned that the u.s. is postponing a planned intercontinental ballisti

petraeus today would probably be presidential timber, if not for that mistake.he why, i don't think is the key. it's what in fact was done and with wet attitude and with what's mental state or criminal intent if necessary if you're going to go into that kind of focus on this problem. >> you know, in any event, john, 3:00 tomorrow, is frankly, just around the corner in the grand scheme of things. i do wonder when they will decide to do. do you think they're going to, if your trump's team, do you think they're going to try and keep this quiet? in the sense of not public? >> well, his standard operating procedure as was mentioned in the last segment, is delay, delay, delay. i think that's the norm. i think he will probably try to fight it. fight with the magistrate judge. then take it to the district court, get the district court judge decide with him, fail there. go to the court of appeals, taken to the supreme court if the supreme court. i can't believe i take this case. i mean, this is a pretty clear cut issue, if you will. on suppression of a subpoena, excuse m

. >> general petraeus, thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to this news?ery significant. it is a triumph for our intelligence community. it is significant that one of the original leaders of al-qaeda, longtime international extremist and terrorist has been brought to justice. it is perhaps a more symbolic, if you will, then it is of operational significance. noting of course the real threat in afghanistan, if there is one of the international extremism is really the islamic state affiliate there. that's the organization that is fighting the taliban, also causing instability. in afghanistan. and that's the one we have to keep an eye on, even as again this is a significant takedown of a very, very long time and very significant extremist leader. >> the other thing, it shows is, the capability, at least, of the u.s. to strike in afghanistan. which is a question raised a lot in the wake of the withdrawal of u.s. forces in afghanistan. president biden had talked about of overcoming the horizon. there's not a lot of details about how this was conducted. but what

there have been high profile exceptions like general petraeus, and sandy berger. in most instances it conducts a spill investigation to determine where the materials are. it's part of that investigation the fbi agents determine whether any sensitive national security information has been revealed so the intelligence community can take countermeasures to protect sources and methods. betsy, is your sense on the basis of what you know and your reporting in this period that this is a spill investigation, or is this distinctly not a spill investigation? >> i wouldn't be able to speculate about whether this fits into one or the other categories, but there's no question that it's not necessarily a binary, and even if the justice department, one would certainly assume and hope is trying to figure out the extent to which potentially mishandled classified information could have been inadvertently or deliberately shared with people who shouldn't have been able to see it, that wouldn't preclude doj from simultaneously looking at the possibility of law breaking in association

it is used in the recent past with petraeus and allegations of otrs but petraeus is the name that comesmind. these are incredibly serious charges, not just in the espionage front but other possible charges. he has not been charged. the warrant -- justifies the search legally. we will see what happens. again, he has not been charged but this is what they're looking for in the documents they took away. remember, some of the documts were reported to be classified. we will see what happens. amy: let's talk about the espionage act. we have seen it invoked against edward snowden, julian assange, ellery -- reality winner. now you see those on the right raising these issues. >> right. this is sort ofistory turning itself on its head. obama used the espiona act to go against whistleblower successfully more than any other president in u.s. history. but the espionage act started in world war i and was used primarily at the time to prosecute successfully those who opposed the world war i. it is been used during the mccarthy era and tried used against daniel ellsberg with the pentagon papers will st

he handled the david petraeus and hillary clinton investigations what's revolve around the handling of classified records. loughman had this to say about the search of the former florida presidents home. for the government to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting, in a search warrant and affidavit than fbi agents were to, was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated. joining us now is david loughman, former chief of the counter intelligence and export control section in the justice department's national security position. he held opposition until 2018 and he oversaw the investigation of hillary clinton's handling of classified records and the investigation of david petraeus. mr. loughman, thank you for being with. it's >> good to be with you ali. >> we hear that many republicans are claiming that this investigation is political but i heard what you said to politico, saying the only way the doj would've pursued the search

army general david petraeus and former security advisor sandy burger.e jail time in their cases. one key question in this case will be intent. the fbi identified hillary clinton's actions and her email scandal as careless, so she wasn't charged. however former nsa contractor reality winner was sentenced to prison time because the justice department says that she intentionally leaked the document to a news outlet. let's bring back my expert panel, toys vance, peter strzok, and he hugo loyal. -- sorry hugo. where will the intent come into play and where this case goes? >> right, intense is a bright line when we look at these situations. one of the most important things to appreciate here is that we are talking about some classified information, now recovered at mar-a-lago, that was top secret but also what's called s c i. compartment and information that only available on a need to know basis to people who hold top secret security clearance. top secret information is typically information that if released in unauthorized fashion has the potential to grave

his military has been beaten up as general petraeus said and as your reporters said in the beginning of this war, they got russian military got really hammered and they're now in a grinding battle back and forth losing tens of thousands of his troops. so president putin has a problem on soldiers so he's looking for, you know, libyans or syrians or north koreans. he's looking at the private group. he's got a problem and what that means is he is in a strain to mobilize that if he mobilizes, then he's got a political problem at home, kate. so he's got economic problems. he's got military problems and he's probably got political problems. >> general, talk to me more about nato in this equation. it has stayed united and getting bigger. that is one thing we have seen in the six months of war. does that sustain for another half a year? >> well, certainly we hope so. i tend to think so. there is great leadership at nato. the secretary general stayed on longer. you see two very strategically important countries with very fine forces albeit small ones, finland and sweden wanting to join nato a

ses ner that counter-intelligence job was david laufman who handled the hillary clinton and david petraeus investigations which involved around the handling of classified government records. he had this to say to "politico" about the search of the former president's flard home. quote for the department to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and the quantity of the evidence that they were reciting in a search warrant and an affidavit that an fbi agent swore to was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated. joining us now is david laufman former chief of the counter-intelligence and export control section in the justice department's national security division. he held that position until 2018 and he oversaw both the investigation of hillary clinton's handling of classified records, and the investigation of david petraeus. mr. laufman, thank you for being here tonight. >> goods to be with you. >> and we know that many republicans are claiming that this investigation is poli

even people who really strongly supporting the nuclear deal, i talked to general petraeus, to a cia directoray, strongly support this but, of course, abhor what iran has done in terms of the assassination attempts. they still think america is safer with the nuclear deal than without it. that's mott the view of john bolton. he's dead set against it and says this is just another reason to be against it. we'll be talking about this tomorrow with him on our report at noon. >> i also saw your interview with david petraeus today. i found that to be very interesting regarding our withdrawal from afghanistan. andrea mitchell, appreciate it as always. >> katy, always good to be with you. thank you. >>> coming up next, the issue that is most important to latino voters for the first time ever. we've got that poll. we'll tell you what it says. >>> why wisconsin is now in line to be the 2022 version of florida, florida, florida. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield? don't wait. go to safelite.com ♪ ♪ you can schedule service in just a few clicks. it's so easy. and more customers today are relying on t

. >> and given he wasn't read out -- you know, the reason that's important is it put a role in petraeusfor example, right? >> david petraeus who as cia director was actually sharing some classified information, not just possessing it outside of proper space, but actually disseminating the information, which made it a huge issue. in this case we don't know. the affidavit once finally opened may tell us that. i doubt the redactions will allow us that much insight today to know whether there was a concern about dissemination or actual dissemination that led to the search and seizure. >> a big question looming over this is that surveillance footage that they got outside the room. david, thank you for joining us on this really, really interesting to see this as we are waiting any moment now to see part of this affidavit and we will see what they see. >> i will be watching. >> thank you. >>> president biden returning to the campaign trail with a fiery speech at the democratic national committee in maryland, touting his administration's accomplishments and attacking what he calls maga republic

one of the reasons that donald trump did not select david petraeus, secretary of state, was he mentioned this, he mentioned the fact that he had mishandled classified information and there was just no way that either he nor the generals who were going to work for him could be -- have any part of that. >> the question of intent, obviously, we'll let the investigation speak for itself. but that is a big one and it makes it far more serious if they find intent. but still if the documents were in his possession, illegally, not matter what, it is bad. you can't walk out with these documents. you didn't by mistake stuff them in your pocket. carol lee, the justice department, the fbi, they're not thinking about the politics of this but it is hard not to look at what might happen or the impact of this politically, your taking a look at the impact this could even have on president biden, positively and negatively? >> that is right. mika, my colleagues and i reported out how some democrats are looking at this and so you have the white house's perspective here which is the president is not going to

army general david petraeus, and former national security advisor sandy berger neither faced prison time our experts agreed the decision to charge comes down to the question of intent >> basically did this cross the line from the situation of carelessness to one of criminal intent? >> reporter: this investigation differs from the one concerning hillary clinton's e-mails, which the justice department identified as careless. while former nsa contractor reality winner who had just one classified document was sentenced with prison time because she intentionally leaked the information to a news outlet, according to the justice department is there any justifiable reason why former president trump would have classified top secret documents in his possession still? >> it's hard for me to understand a legitimate national security reason why the former president should have documents he appears to have been holding at mar-a-lago it poses a grave danger to the national security of america to reveal those documents. that's why they're classified at that level, so it's very serious. >> maura joins us

but, david petraeus was one example. have been cases of documents making their way out of where they are supposed to be, for various personal purposes. that is one piece of that. where broadly, there certainly have been -- more broadly, there certainly have been in a number of administrations questions about whether people are observing the records they are supposed to. i think we saw it in much more extreme form in the trump administration. certainly the idea of trying to keep conversations secret is something we have seen before and goes all the way back to richard nixon and watergate which is what led to a lot of transparency laws. i think most administrations have tried to, for the most part , comply with the law but we have seen incidences of really resisting transparency. host: is it the attorney general who would make the charges if it came to that? guest: in most cases, it would be someone below the attorney general. a u.s. attorney in a specific district or an assistant attorney general. if it were to be the pre

you hear it from the mouth of general petraeus, who was cia director, and he served in afghanistan, andinal and the reason, the macro reason for the collapse of the afghan republic was the lack of commitment, lack of unified narrative and a lack of solid commitment and narrative from the west, particularly the united states. we were lied to and we were lied to all the way to 1a august. i visited washington injune with president ashraf ghani. we met president biden. everything he said to us proved to be a lie. what's your attitude to the americans now? i don't know where you sit but you see it — claiming yourself to be the legitimate leader of afghanistan, but clearly, that is theoretical, certainly not practical. if you don't get support from the outside, it's hard to see how your armed resistance is ever going to threaten the taliban. you need, do you not, the united states, and other allies, to provide you with support? the way you are talking, there is not a hope on earth that the united states is going to offer your support. the united states is not god, it's not the only country in

former marine, who served on general david petraeus central command assessment team in most and greatcongressman you are one of the fairest people they served with. credit where credit is due. >> al-zawahiri was a major figure in global movement. the world is safer with him gone, i fear we're back to september attempts in afghanistan this proves we have a country controlled by taliban providing safe haven to al qaeda. what al-zawahiri of killed he was in the heart of kabul in a house owned by a top aide to senior taliban leader, haqqani who ran a "new york times" op-ed. ifal guide is is not a disruptive group, i don't know what circumstance is. i am glad he is gone, but for president to go out there and spike the football when details of al-zawahiri fal. >> in some ways, we're in a worse position than on september 10, the shameful way in which we surrendered in afghanistan has invited invite aggression in other parts of the world, whether russia taking advantage of our weakness in ukraine or increasing tension in taiwan. trey: what does it say, it is barely a year after our withdrawal

joining us now congressman mike gallagher, serves on house intel a former marine who certained on petraeusmmand. he is from the great state of wisconsin. the president took someone out who needed to be taken out. >> absolutely, al-zawahiri was a major figure in the global movement. the world is safer with him gone, i fear we are back to september 10, in afghanistan. this proves we have a country controlled by the taliban providing safe haven to al qaeda. when al-zawahiri was killed he was not in a remote cave or a compound but in the heart of kabul in a house owned by a top aide to senior taliban leader. who said that taliban would not tolerate present of disruptive groups. so, again, i'm glad he is gone. i give credit to the administration for. making the call, but for the president to go out there and spike the football, when details of al-zawahiri death contradict premise of over horizon strategy, that is either arrogant or naive, in some ways we're in a worse positionme than september 10, the shameful way in which we surrendere in afghanistan has invited aggression in other parts of th

once again, that from general david petraeus, the former u.s. and nato afghan commander.ur question for you this morning is what is the legacy of the war in afghanistan? want to hear from republicans that (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. and we are opening up a special line for veterans of the war in afghanistan, (202) 748-8003. let's start with william, calling from baltimore, maryland on the democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning. good to see you. to stay in afghanistan definitely was not worth it. we stayed there too long. maybe a better strategy would have been surgical airstrikes. i really do not believe in boots on the ground, sacrificing our bravest and youngest, young americans in these wars. and to make matters worse, going into iraq was an even more egregious decision, probably the worst in america's military history. just think, none of us had to happen, because the 2000 election was stolen, the real stolen election, if you want to talk about stolen elections. none of this would have happened, because i doubt i

david petraeus writing in the atlantic. we mostly just want to hear from you. phone lines as usual. that special line is for those who served in afghanistan, (202) 748-8003. arlene is in new orleans. good morning. you were next. caller: i have one problem. ever since trump has been running, i have family members that have been placed all over the world in the military. i am very afraid right now of what's going on with this paperwork they found in his place. i am very worried about my family members and other people who are fighting for our country and our freedom for us to lay down in our beds and sleep comfortably at night. ever since trump came into the political world, i have been very worried. host: we will get to the raid on mar-a-lago. we will spend a segment on it later. on this anniversary, you mentioned you have family members in the military. have you talked to them? caller: they are still in the military. they have served in afghanistan. they are still in the military. i am very worried. host: what have they said to you about the u.s. leaving afghanistan? have you had th

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some of it i thought like cia director david petraeus they mark of cia and i said why your doing that? the letters he iowa are everywhere and they said well if you have the letters he iowaur n your look the cia will have to re-your book and i could take months longer for publication so i said -- i'll make this quick because of the much longer answer. the fbi oversees over 70 offices throughout the world and most people don't don't know that we are received in what the fbi does if there's a nexus to an investigation here in united states and has a nexus to china which is one of the places i was stationed i'm a person who works with the chinese government to get that information evidence or whatever they need and get that back to the united states so the united states a week into do our investigation and vice versa. if the chinese have an investigation i help them with that. the fbi is the head of the office and that's generally what you are doing. you are morbidly a gene -- liaison. if there is a case or a terrorist bombing which happened in one of the cases like covered if the governm

section until 2018 and oversaw investigations into hillary clinton and former cia director david petraeus'slassified records. here's what he had to say. listen to this. >> in some respects it's not that surprising given this president's consistent flagrant disregard for the protection of classified information and disregard for the intelligence kmnt committee throughout his presidency, his careless, reckless disclosure not only to foreign nationals but our foreign adversaries. it could be said this is another version of that flagrant disregard and contempt. having said that, it is nonetheless shock to me having overseen prosecutions of multiple defendants under them to see that same statute leveled as a search warrant executed on the home of a former president of the united states. >>> in ukraine a stern warning about the power plant in ukraine. the facility is now at risk of vie lathe radiation safety and fire safety standards. this is due to damage of recent shelling that they're pitting on each other. meanwhile the city came under artillery fear. pe five people came under attack. 35 othe

in the week there were suggestions that they had likely charged a citation to the same crime that petraeus of been charged with permits handling classified information. that would require that the documents be classified. instead, perhaps because they anticipate -- anticipated this defence, none of these charges require proof that the documents were classified. but there will not be a valid defence to say i declassified them. the second one, the espionage act requires that the information pertains to the national defense which sounds like it does, if there are documents about nuclear weapons. the third one says that is about obstruction of justice. if you have documents and the government came calling for them you, denied that you had them, concealed them. all of these can be -- declassification here is not gonna save donald trump. >> i want to ask you a little bit more about that. the new york times now reporting, a trump lawyer told the justice department the classified material had been returned. the new york times reporting that it's a possible indication that mr. trump or his team wer

general david petraeus will be joining him here in the u.s. have a good weekend, everyone. bloomberg. ♪ >> from the world of politics to the world of business, this is balance of david westin -- power with david westin. david: from bloomberg world headquarters in your tower television and radio audiences worldwide, welcome to balance of power. we had furred -- have heard from joe jay powell on inflation. this is what he had to say. >> some point as monetary policy tightens further, it will likely be appropriate to slow the pace of increases.

we have petraeus, a general who took his own personal notes and give them to a woman he was sleepingh so she could write a book about him. this has happened over and over again. for this case, for them to go and look for personal notes is really, it is unjustifiable. i'll tell you something. there is evidence for what is occurring. if you look at the way that the trump fake dossier, the way that entire thing played up, you are saying that over and over again, where they go and they blow something up in the media, then they use a federal agency to go in and actually do an act. they take that information, they combine it, put it back out in media, which msnbc and cnn are already saying things about crimes. than the use that to go get further warrants and in the blow that up on congress to try and discredit this president. it keeps happening over and over. >> carley: on the flip side, cover up other stories like allegedly, within the fbi, covering up the hunter biden laptops scandal involving russian disinformation. >> along those lines, absolutely know that you can listen to you have p

and everybody remembers david petraeus, who barely escaped a conviction. so, these are serious crimes. and it doesn't matter whether the documents or classified or not. and that's something to remember. >> you just reminding us of how old we all are, oh wait a minute, you are taking me back. can we talk about allen weisselberg, the former cfo of the trump organization? he pleaded guilty today, 15 year tax scheme where he benefited. the trump organization benefited as well. he can testify against the trump org if it goes to trial, should go to trial this fall. look at that reveal, michael? >> i'm afraid it might not reveal very much. because, from what i understand, they're dealing primarily with what weisselberg was engaged with, that was about one point $5 million estimated value of wrongdoing. nor might know, as an attorney, better than me what's possible. but i keep thinking about the general motors case, where this was a corporation that was responsible for 148 deaths over ten years with a problem with an ignition system. nobody went to jail for that.