. >> petrillo avenue, that's a huge project. what are the reason the large projects are not -- >> it would be perfectly possible to put them out to the bid pool and find out what they think it would cost to survey on it, but i think that's probably the issue is that something like that, a couple of miles long and years and also affected by the hospital project, i'm just, a little leery about the size of the bite that you would be taking and might want -- >> that would get confused with the hospital. >> yeah. i would recommend the first outing to go relatively small or moderate and see what kind of data we get back. >> i have no problem with the two. >> i think relatively small, moderate and recent are excellent criteria for selecting it. ill agree with both suggested recommendations. raymond kimball playground and bartlett street improvements. i don't know if it takes a motion, or guidance. >> guidance is fine. bartlett convenient valencia and mission, a number of pedestrian improvements, a farmer's night one night a week. >> wa