. >> to drew petrimoulx, wdbo radio joining us from orlando. drew, is there even a rumor, is there even a suggestion out there about what evidence is so damning that the judge has allowed it to be kept secret even from the defense? i've never heard of that. >> no, no. we obviously don't know, because while this is going to be withheld from the defense another thing, it's also going to be withheld from the public because of the way the discovery evidence goes. first it goes to the defense, then to the public. us reporters are also left questioning what exactly this evidence is. >> to you, eleanor odom, you're a felony prosecutor. my question is, it's often deemed unconstitutional to withhold evidence from the defense. now, clearly we're not about to rush into the courtroom for trial. this thing is going to be delayed. it's a death penalty case. not that that's really an excuse. i've got the motion right here in my hands about evidence that is so damning that the trial judge has allowed it to be kept secret, even from tot mom's defense team. have

with us is drew petrimoulx from orlando, florida.eporter with wdbo radio, a famous radio station in that state. also there, lori and scott miller and their daughter sophia. they were at seaworld today. they didn't witness the actual event, but they saw the earlier whale show before the incident. drew, we're getting conflicting reports. officials say the female trainer was in the whale holding area when she apparently slipped, but a witness says the whale jumped up and grabbed the trainer by the waist. what are you hearing? >> well, since that time, seaworld has actually come faur and admitted that the whale, in fact, dragged her into the water. just after noon today, she was rubbing the whale's stomach after a short meet and greet. a private event that they do after the show. that's when the whale grabbed her, dragged her into the water, kind of thrashed her around a little bit, took her under. some of the people that were underneath in the viewing area watching through the glass actually saw this, and then that's when she drowned. >