of a normal thursday afternoon july 1st, 1993 all hell broke lose in the san francisco offices of pettittorney at law. >> initially when we got here we found there were five, maybe six victims. preliminary investigation shows that there might be a few more. >> there's lots in there i want you to go and give me some patient. >> get out of way you're going to get run over. >> reporter: starting on the 44th floor, a gunman would work his way through the law office from floor to floor firing as we went. he did not know his victims. >> let's go. right there. >> we were in the bathroom when it happened and we heard the smoke and fire alarm go off. and walked out and thought it was a fire alarm. we're going to grab our purses then saw the bull holes in the window of the conference room. then ran, ran down the staircase. >> did you hear the shooting? >> no i could not hear the shooting. i. >> reporter: the police s.w.a.t. team would begin climbing the stairwell. and it's in that stairwell where he found the suspect. >> he was going down the 30th floor. when he saw the officers he put the gun to

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know that judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty and now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to your job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come true just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all of that information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very power

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know that judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty and now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to do good job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come to just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all of that information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very powe

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know the judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to your job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come true just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all of the information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very powerful to

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know that judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to your job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come to just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all the information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very powerful tool i

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know that judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty and now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to your job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come to just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all the information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very powerful to

pettit juries we don't just focus on at juries we also talk about grand juries issues and issues where jurors are not given all of the facts as we now know that judges can decide what evidence is or is not admissible in court so that can skew the outcome of the trial to we've often had people call us and say i've i voted guilty now i want to change my verdict because later i found out some information i felt was relevant but that the judge did not permit us to hear and it's very sad to talk to those people because they really were trying to your job and were simply you know had the information that they needed to come to just verdict withheld from them so we do focus on a lot of other issues other than simply jury nullification because in order for someone to get to the point where they can't use their juror veto power to refuse to enforce an unjust law they have to have all the information involved and all of that sort of thing so it in this used to be very common that everyone would have all of the information they needed and and jury nullification of course is a very powerful tool i

astronauts on station, you know, a day after we lost columbia, socks and don pettit, it was actually communal, their whole attitude was we're here for you. anything we can do we can do. leave is on orbit a year, you know, don't worry about us. take care of columbia. and that was pretty much the attitude i saw across the board, same with working with the shuttle program, same with working with recovery team. interestingly, we were part of the recovery team, recovering our own, which, in fact, i won't go into anything other than to say it was not pleasant. after the fact, some of the medical folks had you know, that was not smart. if we could this again, we do not want the astronaut corps involved in the recovery, particularly when every recovering part of the astronaut corps themselves. i disagreed with that. we did go through psychological debriefing. for those in the field that did some of the -- unpleasant. but one of the most frustrating things is to be held off our be put on the bench, because somebody is worried about your emotions. so i was very thankful that we got to particip