late this afternoon, there was this latest national pew research poll. governor romney now holding a four point lead among likely voters who were surveyed october 4th through the 7th, in other words, after the debate. that is a big swing from mid-september when president obama was ahead by eight. that was this afternoon, a short time ago, a poll running in the "detroit free press" shows the president's lead shrinking to just three points in michigan. mr. obama had a ten point lead there last month. mitt romney's running mate, paul ryan, is in michigan tonight addressing a rally at oakland university in the town of rochester just outside detroit. the question tonight, if the mood of voters is changing here, could it also be a sign that it's changing in ohio as well, another key battleground state. the poll in the free press and the pew poll not the only good news for the romney forces. they got a big boost as well in gallup's tracking poll which shows a 47-47 tie among likely voters contacted on the 4th through the 6th. in pre-debate polling, mr. obama, p

look, obviously i like the poll numbers that pew has, but that doesn't matter. the real issue here is in 2004 when bush beat kerry, the turnout between the two parties was even. in 2008 when barack obama won with this huge election, seven point democratic advantage. the previous pew poll was ridiculous. it had a ten point democratic turnout advantage. not going to happen. this one has a five point republican advantage. as much as i'm a partisan republican, i have a hard time believing that. what we do know is there's been tremendous movement toward mitt romney. when you get your clock cleaned in a debate, it starts to hurt. >> david, in terms of narrative, is this exactly the kind of narrative that obama -- that romney needed going into this, you know, with just a couple weeks away? >> it's very much the narrative he needed, because his campaign was about to be blown away. president obama generally has been running a much better campaign than mitt romney has, but in the last week or so, the mitt romney campaign i think is getting its act together. he had a very,

women voters, if you look at pew a month ago obama had an 18-point lead in the pew poll.hat's not a number that's sustainable for barack obama. >> that's shocking 0 for a lot of people. if it's tied if obama goes into election day with women splitting evenly between memorabilia and obama, obama can't win. he needs a big lead among female voters to win. romney improved his numbers among hispanic voters. if the pew poll is right and consistent and continues through election day obama can't win. you have to take it with a grain of salt, be a little bit cautious. there were more republicans in that poll and that just might be a factor of republicans being excited. >> exactly. we're seeing that as well. this excitement is building, this momentum is building. >> there's a huge change in republican enthusiasm. it just might be when pew was out there calling people republicans were excited about mitt romney's debate performance. >> i talked to a lot of democratic strategists in the last few days and they admit this race has smichtd they are not in full panic mode. they say what t

pew poll, 49% to 45%. are you correcting your prediction?> we always update our numbers in real time and what happened was denver, where i think you had the president behaving as though he had a 14 point lead and not a four point lead and that tends to -- you kind of create your own nightmare sometimes if you do act overconfident about where you stand in the race. at the same time, i'm not sure i would look at this pew poll alone without the broader context of data. we've seen some other polls today, for example the gallup tracking polls move slightly toward obama so right now it's close enough that you will have some polls showing a lead for either candidate and that makes it more dramatic and makes for big headlines but we think the consensus of data shows that will probably settle into being a very narrow lead for president obama, probably one or two points on average, that is an educated guess. >> one of the most interesting aspects of this poll was the 18 point lead in the pew showed that romney had with women has evaporat evaporated. o

in a new pew poll conducted since wednesday. just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on election day make it unlikely in this pew sample that romney has the upper hand. and looking inside the pew numbers, we're looking at an unlikely -- now romney leads by six, 50-44. will we see that same shift in the battleground state polls? we'll have to see what happened what happens. >> this is the last day for voters to register to vote there, that's why they're both there. romney kicks off a two-day ohio journey, he'll be back in ohio again on friday. meanwhile the president holds an evening rally at ohio state university in columbus. by the way romney starts his day on a family farm in central iowa. another midwestern battleground state. paul ryan does his debate prep today in florida

we have results and analysis of our new survey with the pew research center. what does this fast growing group mean for american religious life? >>> also, this election season, a vigorous battle in minnesota over same sex marriage. should the state constitution be amended to define marriage as only between a man and a woman? fred de sam lazaro tells the story. >>> welcome, i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us as we begin today a three-part series we call "none of the above." it's about the fast-rising number of people in this country who say they have no affiliation with any particular religion. according to a new survey released this week by the pew research center's forum on religion and public life in partnership with this program, that number is now the highest it's ever been in any pew polling. when pollsters ask whether people are baptist or catholic or jewish or some other religious tradition, more and more people say, in effect, "none of the above." so they have come to be called the nones -- n-o-n-e-s. we wanted to know who these nones are

look at the internals, inside this new pew poll. obama in being regarded as a strong leader. runs virtually even. with the president, willingness to work with leaders of the other party. 47 to 40% margin, voters pick romney as the candidate who has new ideas. on the flip side, president obama continues to hold lead as the candidate who connects well with ordinary people. takes consistent position on issues. here is a real interesting one, steve. president obama leads by ten points. 49 to 39, as the candidate who takes more moderate positions on the issues. this is in the pew poll. >> i find that the most significant and interesting aspect of this, finding this poll because it suggests that the romney campaign has an opportunity. you have seen in this poll a dramatic shift toward romney, virtually everything. even places where president obama continues to lead. you see a shift toward romney. he has expanded his gap on things like jobs. he expanded the gap on things like the deficit. we have seen this shift toward romney and all the o

the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the en

you see you don't really trust pew? >> i think they were skewed before, i don't want to mess with them later. >> please note they're never skewed to benefit republicans. if this is what they're saying, romney's winning. >> sean: we got to take a break. we'll come back. by the way, joe biden sequestered for a full six days. he's in hiding. governor romney's impressive performance at last week's presidential debate will go down in history, the most decisive victory in the history of debates. we'll have the latest coming up. also later on tonight we will be checking in the celebrity president gets a huge endorsement from a misogynist pothead, snoop dogg. and ann and pat respond to the most offensive language being injected in the race. and jim lehrer is here tonight that's straight ahead. ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo sauce. marie callender's new comfort bakes. it's time to savor. hahahaha! hooohooo, hahaha! newthis is awesom

back to this pew survey two important findings.r one is the number of protestants in this country has really gone down. for the first time there is not run protestant on the supreme court. not one. couple of jews the rest are catholics. number two there is not a protestant on the presidential ticket. third pew finds that 48% now of americans say that they are of one protestant religion or the other. that's the lowest it has ever been. that's the first finding in this. what does that mean about the protestant faith? 866-55-press. well it means there are more catholics, more muslims, but also more people who profess no organized religion. there are now more and more americans who say i don't belong to any established religion. i'm not into religion, and i don't go to church. i may feel there's a god. doesn't say they are atheist all, but they do not asubscribe to any organized religion. what i find more interesting than the 20% is flip it over that means that 80%, 80% of americans do say yes, we belong to some organized religion. now

the pew survey says the percentage of protestant adults has fallen to 48%. not so much that people are changing faiths. the number of americans with no religious affiliation at all has increased from 15% to 20% in the last five years. there's an interesting political twist to all of this. those who describe themselves as having no religion vote mostly for democrats and support abortion rights and gay marriage. losing weight clicked for me when i had everything i needed to lose weight right in my hands. sophomore year started weight watchers online, the weight started coming off. ahh! oh my gosh! [ laughs ] we're college kids, we go out all the time. having my food tracker on my phone, i can figure out what i'm having at the restaurant. i lost 73 pounds with weight watchers online. i don't think i've ever smiled this much in my whole life. it kind of hurts my cheeks. [ female announcer ] join for free. hurry, offer ends october 20th. weight watchers online. finally, losing weight clicks. i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, a

jim, when's the caaign's reaction to this new pew poll?nce to get a brief take of a senior romney official about the new poll numbers from the pew research center and they say they're encouraged by what they believe is evidence of their supporters being energized after last week's presidential debate. they also feel like they're undecided voters giving the former massachusetts governor a new look after what happened in the first encounter with president obama last week in denver. meanwhile, all of this good campaign news comes as mitt romney is trying once again to draw a sharp contrast with the president on the issue of national security. telling a crowd of cadets and supporters at the virginia military institute that hope is not a strategy on foreign policy mitt romney wasted no time in building his case that the middle east has grown more dangerous under president obama's watch. and exhibit an is last month's attack leaving a u.s. ambassador dead at the american consulate in libya. >> the attacks on last month should not be seen as rand

and i have a question about the pew poll.sense to me a week ago basically it was five up obama. now it's five up romney? >> bill: i'm going to defer that question -- we're going to talk about the pew poll at the top of the next hour here. let me just say this, do not panic about one poll. lynn calling from topeka indiana? >> caller: topeka indiana. >> bill: i never knew there was a topeka indiana. >> caller: yeah we're not that far from the michigan border. >> bill: and you compete with topeka, kansas for fame; is that it? >> caller: i don't know about that. [ laughter ] >> bill: what is on your mind this morning. >> caller: mr. romney to me is not mr. romney. it's mr. chicken hawk. this guy can screw up -- i don't know -- >> bill: a two-car funeral as they say. >> caller: yeah there could be a major accident involved. [ laughter ] >> caller: he scares me to death. not only does he screw up with saying about russia being our national enemy -- >> bill: oh, right. >> caller: and then he can go over to britain and get people tic

the pew one, if you're still with me, is only october 4th through october 7th.ou're getting from obama's standpoint the worst of the worst in this pew one. none of the predebate, only the worst of the immediate post debate. sort of remains to be seen how that shakes out. >> that's very helpful. secretary reich, if the gallup tracking poll indicates we're back where we were before the debate, could it be that the one night stand of romney's performance really isn't swaying voters as much as maybe a drop in the jobless rate to below 8%? >> martin, voters are concerned only about really one thing, and that is jobs. the second thing is the economy, but the economy to the extent it improves the jobs situation. and undoubtedly the job number and the job report friday had a very positive effect on voters. jound lying the presidential contest is who do you trust more to get jobs back -- >> but professor reich, i'm being told every day these polls are a conspiracy, these jobs numbers were a conspiracy. the bureau wation involved in some kind of, i don't know, alien abduc

we did a joint survey with the pew forum on religion & public life to find out more about these people, who are often called the nones -- that's n-o-n-e-s. oday, kim lawtoneports on the nones and politics, what their influence might be in this year's election and on religion and politics in the years ahead. >> reporter: in the battleground state of ohio, volunteer monette richards is making calls for state and local democratic candidates. she wants to encourage liberal voters, and especially those who support abortion rights, to get out to the polls next month. >> we get the government that we deserve because we get the government that we vote for. and right now it's not good enough for me. >> reporter: richards is part of a growing force on the political scene. the 46 million americans who say they are not affiliated with a religion. their numbers have been rising rapidly, and they are heavily democratic. >> something like a quarter of people who identify with the democrats or lean towards the democratic party are in this unaffiliated category. that's a lot of votes. that's a major gr

good to have you all onboard. >> let's start with the pew poll, the national pew poll.ing. it's 45 among likely voters before the debate. now we suspect that's going to be much larger. we can go on to the michigan poll shows we've gone from a ten-point obama lead to now three-point obama lead. it's in the margin of error. >> yep. >> and then the biggest shift. and i -- i still think this is an outlier. i think it's much closer. but the gender gap now has been completely erased, 47% to 47%. i didn't think he was down 18 points last month. i don't think it's tied this month. but it's probably three, four, five points. this race has tightened. >> sure. >> in a serious way. >> this is one poll. and it's hard to poll when things are moving. >> right. things are moving right now. >> so that one, other people can say others. there were plenty of moments like this. in fact, this exact moment was just like this because john kerry came out like, you know, like a cannon ball in that first debate. polls started to move all over the place and then they settled down for the second an

not everyone is ready to believe. >> the pew research poll shows romney in front now. do you think that poll's accurate? >> probably as accurate as any of them out there. >> reporter: you don't think there's a difference? >> no. >> reporter: this woman had one thought she very much wanted to express. >> i think the only poll that's going to count is the one on november 6th. >> reporter: you can argue with what many people here are saying, but you can't argue with that. gary tuchman, cnn, rochester, michigan. >> she's right about that poll. michigan is tightening, you saw from the polling at the top. ohio is tightening too, where early voting is well under way. chief national correspondent john king is in columbus, ohio tonight. in washington, chief political analyst, gloria borger. if there was any doubt about whether or not governor romney got a bounce from that first debate, is that now gone with these latest battleground polls, particularly in ohio, where you are tonight? are we really seeing a game change here? are you seeing stuff on the ground? >> you're seeing a

mark lopez, centro hispano pew entre los votantes latinos ahora hay mucho apoyo para barack obama. 7e cada 10 votantes latinos van a votar por barack obama. y solamente el 21% dice lo mismo sobre mitt romney. educacion, empleos, salud son las prioridades de los votantes latinos. inmigracion aparece en el quinto lugar. 7 de cada 10 estan seguros de que votaran en noviembre. expertos en el voto latino creen que esto confirma informes anteriores.max sevillio ahora todavia queda 1 parte muy grande de nuestra comunidad que no se ha comprometido y no planea salir a votar. una sorpresa fue que el 71% de los votantes hispanos apoye las controvertidas leyes estatales que exigen 1 identificacion con fotografia para votar.max sevillia, naleo como la comunidad latina se identifica con los nuevos requerimientos para poder votar, pruebas de identificacion. nosotros en naleo estamos monitoreando porque creemos que ese tipo de leyes pueden ser regresivos para nuestra comunidad." standup: fernando pizarro, washington d.c. tambien segun el reporte, el 86% de los votantes latinos aprueba la accion dife

. >> reporter: just last month, the pew research poll had president obama leading mitt romney 51 to 43%. now, pew says romney is leading with 49% to obama's 45%. >> the trajectory of this race appears to have changed dramatically in the wake of the debate. >> reporter: carol dougherty of the pew research group says romney's post-district attorney beat gains are across the board. he now trails the president by only one point. women say they've changed their view of romney. romney has gained among independents who have changed their view of him while again the president is down. >> romney has proven a lot. he stood toe to toe with the president. his favorable image improvedded sharply. >> reporter: the ad war is also heating up. the produces are ever sesame treat have asked the obama campaign to take down an ad featuring big bird which mocks romney's pledge to defund pbs. >> big bird, big bird. >> reporter: the romney campaign is hitting back with new spots attacking the president's record on spending. >> obama's four deficits are the four largest in u.s. history. >> reporter: with mitt r

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