we're funded by the pew charitable trust out of philadelphia. and the pew hispanic center is actually part of a broader larger center called the pew research center. we do public opinion surveys, but we also do a lot of look at the demographics of the hispanic community. and one of our signature products actually is, how many unauthorized immigrants are there in the country. but our point is to provide facts. what do we know about the latino population in the us and how are they changing the us and how is the us changing them? >> hinojosa: so, results of the 2010 census. we're now talking about latinos being more than 50 million? >> that's correct, 50.5 million were counted in the 50 states plus the district of columbia. and when you include the island of puerto rico, you get about another 3.8 million latinos. so the hispanic population of the u.s. has grown tremendously, by about 43% over the last decade. and that growth alone actually has accounted for more than half of the nation's population growth, so when we talk about us population growth,

host: adam is with the pew charitable trust.you want to join this conversation as we are talking about prison reform and sentencing and corrections reform, our phone lines are open. democrats (202) 748-8000 republicans (202) 748-8001 independents (202) 748-8002 the numbers are up on the screen if you want to start dialing now. in your report, you talk about how some states have started to lower the numbers of those in prison. what are states doing that the federal government can learn from? guest: they are rolling up their sleeves, digging into the data and using research and data to drive policy rather than ideology and emotion. that is where we have in the last 20 or 30 years working parties were engaged in a one upmanship battle. there are lots of folks involved in providing intensive 10 assistant to states to help them understand to that week it is they have imprisoned and whether there might be some is less expensive strategies. host: you talk about reforms with states cutting improvement rate and crime rates. texas is one

host: adam geld is with the pew charitable trust -- gelb is with the pew charitable trust. if you want to join this conversation that we are talking about, prison reform, sentencing and corrections reform, our phone lines are open. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 745-8002 for independents. (202) 748-0003 for for those who have had -- (202) 748-0003 for those who have had experience in the prison system. those numbers are up on the screen if you want to start dialing in now. in your report, you talk about how some states have been able to start glowing the numbers of those in prisons. what are states doing right that the federal government can learn from? guest: they are rolling up their sleeves and getting into the data and using research and data to drive policy, rather than ideology and emotions. that is where we have been for the past 20, 30 years, where both parties were engaged in a one-upsmanship battle to be tougher on crime. but now, it has been a real pleasure for us to work along with partners at the justice department, the inst

host: this is what the few charitable trust put together -- pew charitable trust put together. 25% comesm the federal government about $64 billion. 20% comes from the state. local government spending, about 35%. cato institute putting together paperwork calling on the government to get out completely as you are saying. they say states can fill the gap. guest: well, the highways -- highway trust fund money comes out of the states with the gas tax and most of it goes back to the states. i only point is that there needs to be a national transportation system like the interstate system, and the federal government has some role in building that out and in maintenance. that would be my only hold back on complete devolution to the states. host: by the way, the congressional budget office putting together these numbers. you can look at it take -- dating back to 2000. there were surpluses, there was revenue in there. you can see that it has dropped down and it has continued to drop down, adding the price tag at about $100 billion needed for the next six years. guest: again, my proposal would pay

host: this is what the few charitable trust put together -- pew charitable trust put together. 25% comes from the federal government about $64 billion. 20% comes from the state. local government spending, about 35%. cato institute putting together paperwork calling on the government to get out completely as you are saying. they say states can fill the gap. guest: well, the highways -- highway trust fund money comes out of the states with the gas tax and most of it goes back to the states. i only point is that there needs to be a national transportation system like the interstate system, and the federal government has some role in building that out and in maintenance. that would be my only hold back on complete devolution to the states. host: by the way, the congressional budget office putting together these numbers. you can look at it take -- dating back to 2000. there were surpluses, there was revenue in there. you can see that it has dropped down and it has continued to drop down, adding the price tag at about $100 billion needed for the next six years. guest: again, my proposal would