so we're interested in seeing pg&e treat their care customers equally and exempt them here in the pg&e service territory. so that's an issue that's being addressed at the cpuc now. >> what is typically the charge? >> you mean the dollar amount? about a penny per kilowatt hour. >> per kilowatt hour. >> yeah. so as we look at our program economics, our cca program economics, that's important to us because from the customer perspective the decision to move will have an economic impact, even if our supply is exactly the same cost as pg&e's supply, this will have that pcia cost that follows them as they leave pg&e, so we have to strive to have our program be a penny per kilowatt hour cheaper so that the customer is financially indifferent to make the change. what we are proposing here, or what parties are proposing here at the california puc is to make it so that low income qualified care customers don't have to pay that charge. >> what does pcia stand for? >> customer indifference adjustment. what's the p power. power cost indifference adjustment. >> and that would be as long as the sunri

&e rates for the pg&e offering. >> i have a question in terms of rates we have a desire to bait pg&e of it's by a penny. >> we have that desire and the proof it in the pudding when we see the requests for the proposals and if we have the ability to have the rates below you know not just above the noifd by below the penguin rates we'll present that. >> i know there's a lot of moving parts to this and make that better because - >> yes, thank you. >> part of the sha bank. >> the repair sha bank. >> so i sort of reviewed the overall objectives how the math workouts a rate of 6 point 8 cents and the premium product 10 point 7 cents for a kilowatt, however, 10 point 7 cents for a renewable product we are factoring in as we look at those rates fish taco in the rate that pg&e will past the power charge and adjustment fee into their customers we're assuming we will eat that in order to meet that affordability to meet that target price and so we're going to need to be that much better anothers penguin as procuring resources for the customer base and so at those rates given the megawatt size wh

pg&e. we will continue to have success. the programs the department runs contribute 40 percent of the energy efficiency savings in in the pg&e portfolio in san francisco and again that's with us prioritizing the small business and the multifamily business owners and this portfolio focuses on large commercial buildings and low hanging fruit so contribute 40 percent of of the savings in pg&e territory here and have done this with experienced professionals this soup represents our credentials again this team and expertise is invaluable. a lot of my team is here today. they are passionate and honest and effective and customers know we're un motivated by profit and we have bilingual staff to engage the multicultural communities and so the department is currently returning running 2 programs san francisco energy watch and the the bayren program. they share a common goal but the approach is different. the san francisco energy watch program has been mostly a lighting program we've run this program since 2006 and worked with all mar

is not community crisis is not a community project that has no competition it has competition from pg&e and there are political issues around community choice being b being we need to get the program approved before the election this november so we can't be slipping on the timelines and i would add with the not to exceed rate that we need to make sure at the next meeting on april 14th that you folks as a commission are saying to staff that okay. today we're going to tell you to send those not to exceed rates that match pg&e brown pourn a rates to the ratepayer i forgot the name of the board. >> the fairness board so there's no delay on that when we're seeing staff asking for details anything that can be accelerated needs to be accelerated that means if we accelerate taking not to exceed rates to the fairness board we needed freed need to do that more quickly if we don't get the rates pushed in the papers before pg&e roles out it's program and talks about it presumably great rate to market the product we'll be behind the eight ball marketing to the public it is really important for us

to serving all available san francisco residential and commercial load so what do you mean right now pg&e serves 8 hundred megawatts in san francisco and we serve thirty with our municipal program so you imagine that thirty megawatts growing it could be quite a large opportunity to implement the policy goals and objectives that have been articulated imply the city for the last ten years in trying to launch this program starting small allows us to get our house in order and make sure we have the program any of or administrative program and begin to add load could we add load more quickly than an, an annual basis potentially but i want to make sure that the program stable lids at each incorporation of new load before we add more so the thirty megawatts will be given to communicate the opt out opportunities to the thirty meg wallets of load at the end of this calendaring year into the spring of 2016 they will still have opportunity to opt out of the program we want that thirty megawatts to hit a steady stage before we add nor load to the program it could be a 8 hundred megawatt program i'l

so we're interested in seeing pg&e treat their care customers equally and exempt them here in the pg&e service territory. so that's an issue that's being addressed at the cpuc now. >> what is typically the charge? >> you mean the dollar amount? about a penny per kilowatt hour. >> per kilowatt hour. >> yeah. so as we look at our program economics, our cca program economics, that's

tiered program a default product and premium product the goal to offer supplies that are greener than pg&e and having a low g h g at compatible rates again that meeting with affordability we're proposing a 33 to 50 percent renewable content bundled california eligible resources we'll expect when we go out into the market in the first r0u7b8 the responses will be larger from existing operating renewables we also expect that as the program matures we'll be able to contract for new you know both owned and purchased renewable generation and this those will be coming online in the years two to three plus timeframe as their developed under the default product that competes with the routine pg&e customer what about our dark green equivalent or our clean start equivalent excuse me. our evergreen sonoma laupgs it is one hundred percent renewable green house free supply we'll envision the rate and cost to be set to say a margin to fund building new local and regional projects renewable projects at a price eventual to penguin tariff offering targeted to be 3wu7bd in state local rpr compliant resour

and the bay energy watch programs are fund. >> fund by the public goods. >> right but paying a pg&e bill. >> that's how there's no conceptual legal itself for the scc a. >> tha there are you have to be a cca customer and under the cca program penguin continues to provide the distribution services and the meeting services all those services that pg&e is providing to their base customers today will continue to be provided by pencil and paid for by those recite payers the one that his they'll not be paying for and per diem is not providing is the supply that's the piece we're proposing to provide. >> if we move towards the build out is there a possibility we'll ever dwell on the distribution i mean there will be complaktsdz. >> there's always a possibility if we're doing our own distributions it no longer a cca program. >> that's an i o u throughout the state. >> yes. the state of california they adopted the law for the program said to the utilities you must at that particular time this program and must provide the distribution meeting and billing serviced and work with the local juris

say here's how much it's going to cost us and here's how much our rate is and set it a cent less than pg&e so you can claim to be to be cheaper and that gap tells you how much money you have for build out whether it's energy efficiency or behind the meter solar whether it's large-scale, you know how much money you have that's when you can then determine what kind of programs we can offer and how much can we actually build with this program when we get launched and that's the key thing and we issued this report in january it was actually out in early release and drafts and being finalizes and the mayor's office announced they then therefore wanted to do this work and at that point i'm going to hand it to assistant manager hale and i wanted to mention one key thing the sun shares program is a great program. we we should be figuring out how to utilize that program and sign up for a hundred for a hundred percent green program and then also how do we maybe create an energy efficiency program that uses that same type of model. we find contractors who can do the work and get those customers int

that's what the state public utilities commission says about pg&e.he company is about to be slapped with a potentially record-breaking fine. >> you may never have to worry about your phone battery dying again thanks to some researchers at stanford. >> we have rain, it is back in the forecast. i'll tell you when you can expect it. >> and it's looking like rush hour at the bay bridge toll plaza. the metering lights are on. more "kcbs traffic" for you in just a few minutes. >>> good morning to you, it's thursday, april 9. i'm juliette goodrich in for michelle this morning. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. time now 6:30. >>> a new report raising some serious concerns for anyone flying or from san francisco airport at sfo. and here's kpix 5's mark sayre to explain why the airport is named the worst in the name for perimeter security. >>> reporter: the issue is if you can get through the perimeter of an airport you then have direct access to aircraft on the tarmac. that is the concern. now, the "associated press" is coming out with an investigation th

is pg&e just too big? joe vasquez says there is some serious talk about breaking up pg&e into smaller utilities. joe? >> reporter: ken, they are still rebuilding from that explosion here in san bruno. that is why a lot of ears perked up when the head of the cpuc himself spoke up asking if pg&e was just too large to take care of their gas pipelines. >> i am still troubled that i can't say whether we really see that culture of safety and attention to detail. we need from a large utility. >> reporter: president michael picker of the cpuc raises an interesting question says state senator jerry hill who has pushed for reform since the explosion that kill eight people and wiped out 38 houses five years ago. >> it is such a large company. >> reporter: the company has 42,000 miles of natural gas pipelines but gas only making up 10% of pg&e's business. since the explosion is costing a lot of money, a much larger many profitable division is electricity with 141,000 miles of distribution line. >> they could separate

the state utility watchdog says pg&e may see be too big to operate safely. anne makovec reports. >> reporter: the fine imposed this morning is $1.6 billion combined with past penalties to pg&e and it is a record- breaking $2.2 billion that pg&e will pay for the san bruno explosion. most going to future pipeline safety. >> i never thought it would be the most horrific day of our lives. >> reporter: sue lost three family members on the day of the san bruno explosion on september 9, 2010. eight people died, 66 injured, and dozens of homes destroyed. >> it's been rough since that day filled with loneliness, anguish, loss, anger, grief and despair. >> reporter: today the state public utilities commission voted to fine pg&e $1.6 billion for 2500 violations of state and federal law that led to the deadly blast. >> couldn't put a value on eight lives. that's why we have been working so hard in their memory. we never want this to happen again. >> reporter: the blame is on pg&e but also lax regulation by the puc, the agent with a new president who is questioning wheth

&e rates we're proposing to set the not to exceed rate based on the projected pg&e green tariff rate we have our basically r basic product competing with their products and we're also asked the rate fairness board to provide us with a limited authorization to modify rates we're looking to have the supply prices allowing us to stay within the not to exceed rate and the next step will be to go out to the market your mentioning supervisor avalos to procure supply and see if our expectation is realistic in the marketplace and we'll present what are the final rates that will be charged to customers assuming those rates come in not to exceed below rate. >> i'm assuming the green rate is below or are we doing apples to apples. >> yes. >> great. >> do you want some water. >> yes. please and respect to the default product the specific rate we're looking at will taking into account the power adjustment and we're estimating it today at approximately 9 point 7 cents a unskilled what the hour for a non-residential consumer when you take that 89 point 7 cents an hour for puc and subcontract out it

he said with $1.6 billion in earnings pg&e is able to shrug off the penalties and pg&e said they carried out the extensive safety improvements sip the disaster. >> police in oregon arrested two men in connection with a contra costa county murder. troopers conduct add traffic stop yesterday afternoon in the suspect vehicle around area of eugene oregon. they determined the suspects were wanted in connection with a almost side in contra costa county and were identified as 20-year-old and 24-year-old taken into custody without incident. >>> police in berkeley warn people to watch out for two strong-armed robbers. the first happened at 12:42 yesterday morning with four men walking to a man. one punched the victim in the case and made off with the cell phone and wallet. the second incident happened about six minutes later north of parker street. in that incident four men surrounded a man and took his cell phone. that victim was not hurt. >> a jury has convicted the owner of a party bus company in the death of a santa cruz woman. 25-year-old natasha noland died when she fell out of the bus. jon

. >>> pg&e slapped with a record fine for that deadly san bruno blast. the utility will pay $1.6 billion, much of that going toward pipeline safety but as anne makovec reports the state utility watchdog says pg&e may be too big to operate safely. >> i never dreamt that that day would end up buying the most horrific day of my daughter's and my life. >> reporter: sue bullis lost three family members on the day of the san bruno explosion on september 9, 2010. eight people died, 66 were injured, and dozens of homes were destroyed. >> it's been a rough road since that day filled with loneliness, anguish, loss, anger, grief, and despair. >> reporter: today the state public utilities commission voted to fine pg&e $1.6 billion for 2500 violations of state and federal law that led to the deadly blast. >> you couldn't put a value on eight lives. that's why we have been working so hard in their memory. we never want this to happen again. >> reporter: the blame is on pg&e but also lacks regulations by the puc. the agency now has a new president who is questioning if

so is pg&e simply to big to operate safely?estion is expected to come up as the state puc plans to vote on a penalty for the deadly san bruno pipeline explosion. kpix 5's anne makovec is live at the puc headquarters with mortgage on the commission president's concerns. anne. >> reporter: we have an advance copy of the comments he is expected to make today here in san francisco questioning the structure and the culture of safety at pg&e. at the same time, handing out a record fine possibly up to $1.6 billion because of the san bruno explosion back in 2010. 4.5 years ago that pipeline explosion in san bruno which killed 8, injured 66 and destroyed dozens of homes. the ntsb cited repeated safety failures by pg&e as well as lax regulations by the puc itself in this blast. there are two possible fines on the table today. 1.4billion and 1.6 billion. >> we believe this historic penalty sends the right message that gross negligence, corruption and profits over safety will no longer be tolerated. >> we do believe that a penalty is appro

kelly how do we know what the light green rate is going to be for pg&e we're making an assumption we don't know for sure. >> right now pg&e doesn't have a light green they're having a brown rate which is 25 percent returnable and we're looking at 3233 like marin we can offer that at the same price pg&e is offering their 25 percent so our product will be greener the same price and the beauty is those people will automatically be in our program we talk about their martha they're marketing the greener product and having people opt into that program we'll have those folks in your program so for me we have an advantage i'd like to move both the products once you have an opportunity to communicate with the rate fairs or the customers we would like to give them opportunity to convince them to sign into the greener product at the same time their automatically coming out our program that's what i want to do is give them a choice you can going come into our promissory note program or opt into a greener program with more build outs so we need to define that that is how i'd like to you know mark

misspoken on saying that pg&e stock went up 3%. it went up $3 on the day that big fine was announced. today they voted on the fine at 6:00. we are going to hear from the cpuc's new president about how he thinks she can hold executives fnly responsible. reporting from the cpuc headquarters mark matthews nbc bay area news. >> a bomb threat evacuated milpitas high school. a threat left on the school's answering machine. they traced the call back to a pay phone. tonight officers are trying to figure out who made the threat. officer sent home and nearby kids were kept inside. nothing was found. >> we have a police chase of a different kind. a suspect fleeing on a stolen horse. i will show you exclusive video from the sister station in los angeles. a warning here, the end of the chase, turned violent. >> san bernardino sheriff deputies saying it started as a car chase and jumped ton a horse. this is about 50 miles north of riverside. as can you see, it end as the suspect have deputies and taze them and beat them dozens of times. i will w

and question don't but we were active in the gp c where pg&e requested approval and pummeling provided a lessor rates their rates are based on costs we have a prugd idea where to start as time marched on they've got new projects with new costs we have a general idea and those prices were pushed over the next several months we'll have a clear idea what they're to be charging they'll be foiling their letter in early may. >> we don't know if we are going to be able to beat those prices. >> yeah. >> and set a limit not to exceed. >> exactly. >> we can set a not to exceed rate it will be adjusted coming in below that and talk about what we're doing with the revenues from that program; right? to give us flexibility and the other thing when you looked at your schedule we don't know the rates until we actually go out with the rfps; right? we're going in the market and kind of see what the numbers but until we go out with the rfp and determine the proposals we get we can't even though you know the price. >> yeah. if i can add it is a cost restraint we're going to the mantling and find out if we

pg&e will pay a total of $2.2 billion in fines. the company and its shareholders will pay the fines, not the ratepayers. in a statement, pg&e says, the company's focus is on moving forward to complete the important safety work they set out to do. >>> time 4:32. a bird strike forced an alaska airlines plane to turn back before arriving in san jose. the plane had the a bird after take-off from seattle last night. the pilot decided to return to the airport's precaution. none of the 117 people on board was hurt. passengers and crew were put on another plane for san jose. >>> today the day apple fans have been waiting for. the apple watch went on preorder at midnight. like many releases, several models of the device sold out within minutes. you can try the watch starting today at apple stores worldwide. you can order it. but the company recommends you make a reservation first. we'll have a live report coming up in a few minutes on all the folks that want to get the watches. >> they want you to go in and look at all the styles, diamond,

spent fully on local build or set some aside to address rate adjustments that might have to happen pg&e rates hemisphere during the course of the year dollars set aside to continue to fund ourselves and stay competitive with pg&e i suppose investing in those kind of things. >> i you know the thirty megawatts we're looking at in launching the program is that the model or looking to launch bigger or launch when we launch early next year. >> we're planning to isolate thirty megawatts but for some reason the market is in our favor we could come to the commission wow. we've got great opportunity but we're going with the expectation it will be a thirty megawatt program. >> we've seen revenues from 2 hundred thousand to a million. >> yes. >> that's the net revenues that's what we'd be collecting at these rates in excess of our actual costs to operate the program. >> i'm just wondering if it is significant enough for us to have a robust program it seems really small. >> well thirty megawatts is a small program the margins formal a cca program are tight this will as those slides dpeement the n

all of them upset with pg&e. >> pg&e did not have adequate records of the pipelines they replaced under ground 50 years ago. they plate aptly violated their own policies and procedures but they violated state and federal regulations. i believe this is the case of criminal negligence and indifferent behavior. >> this decision shows the people of california are entitled to receive what the law says they have the right to expect. safe reliable utility service at just and reasonable rates with adequate facilities. >> the cpuc president worries the fine will not impact the billion dollar utility so he will ask the staff to look and the possibility of recovering corporate bonuses to executives as a former of punishment. he is worried that pg&e is too big to be safe and wants the staff to study whether they should split the gas and electric operations. pg&e said going into the meeting it has redoubled the safety efforts since the blast and it was looking forward to hearing comments from the meeting. a spokesman will officially comment on what happened today later this afternoon. >>> thank you.

. >> at 6:00, a frightening punishment ahead for pg&e following the 2010 san bruno disaster. a new plan could cost a lot more than cash. >>> surveillance video captured a terrifying ordeal for a san jose homeowner feet away from a burglar. we do not have those pictures yet but she is taking matters into her own hands. >>> making the most of mass transit and how bart is going rider friendly to help explore where you live. >> good morning thanks for joining us. >>> i am eric thomas. >> i am here with leyla gulen and drew tuma. >> you need shades. we have a ton of sunshine and a warm day. live doppler hd is tracking dry skies above and mostly clear conditions. we are cool in some spots. you need a heavy jacket and fairfield is in the upper 30s and elsewhere mostly in the 40s an the bay. partly cloudy skies from the upper 50s to lower 70s in the warmer spots today. >> grab the sun shades. how is the commute? >> tougher because we have a couple of accidents. first i want to show you walnut creek where traffic is manageable out of pleasant hill to highway 24 it is moving decently a

make sure the spending is appropriate, san francisco energy watch is the local gofrt partnership with pg&e so we are subjected to both its authority and that of the cpuc's energy division. in contrast, they are subject to the direct authority of the energy gition so that one layer of complexity is removed. the result is more los angelesity in program design and we have really enjoyed that the past few years. we want to pause and explain the claimable savings we often bring up here, this is a standard retrofit, we have a 60 watt incandescent light bulb going to a 10 watt led lamp. the claimable savings here you would expect would be 50 watts, but in fact what the program can claim is only 8 watts. so the math makes sense, you would say 50 watts but unfortunately the program is only able to claim and incentive ieds that smaller amount because that is the amount that's above the state's title 24 code base line. this is something that we've been able to break through with the barren program and something we hope to do with other programs. the bay run has given us this interesting proof of co

finally coming to a close, in just a matter of hours the cpuc will vote on an historic fine against pg&e for its involvement in the deadly explosion in san bruno. "today in the bay's" stephanie chuang live in san francisco this morning. steph, this fine could be $1.5 billion or more. >> reporter: that's right, good morning, scott and kris. it could be, although in a prepared statement obtained by the associated press ahead of this morning's hearing the commission president asked about the fine and whether it would be enough to impact pg&e, the state's largest power utility, which earns $1.6 billion last year alone. so $1.6 billion is the figure commission president michael picker is proposing as the fine against pg&e for the 2010 deadly san bruno explosion that killed eight people. picker's recommendation adds $200 million to what administrative law judges decided a few months ago with the other major change being hundreds of millions of dollars devoted specific dloi pipeline safety upgrades instead of the safe general fund which could pay for anything. san bruno city leaders also want

pg&e crews are still on scene because he crashed into two power poles. can see the aftermath in the video from earlier, the black sedan with the rear end mangled and torn apart. the front bumper is clear off, the door ripped off. the two officers stopped the driver northbound 880 adding they didn't have enough time to engage in a pursuit with the crash happening just seconds later. the officer stayed on scene to help get the woman in her 20s and the kid under 10 years of age out of the car. the kid was in a booster seat. the two are at a local hospital for minor injuries while the male driver is still on the run but the chp working to track him down, it's unclear what the relationship is among these three people, if it's mom, dad and child. pg&e crews are here, it's estimated about 121 people without power at this point and that tennison between roost road and huntwood power will not be restored until 9:00 this morning. the road closed here until 9:00 this morning. live in hayward, stephanie chuang, "today in the bay." >> so scary. if you find out how th

nearly 5:00 on this thursday. >>> is pg&e too big to operate safely? the state puc is preparing to vote on a penalty for the deadly san bruno pipeline explosion. anne makovec live at puc headquarters with more on the commission's president's concerns. >>> reporter: the public utilities commission is set to vote here today in san francisco. questions this morning about the culture of safety and basically the way pg&e does business. it is the state's largest utility and now there is the possibility of the company facing a $1.6 billion fine that is a record fine stemming from this 4.5 years ago the pipeline explosion in san bruno which killed 8, injured 66 and destroyed dozens of homes. the ntsb cited repeated safety failures by pg&e as well as lax regulations by the puc itself in this blast. there are two possible fines on the table today. 1.4billion and 1.6 billion. >> we believe this historic penalty sends the right message that gross negligence, corruption and profits over safety will no longer be tolerated. >> we do believe that a penalty is appropri

our staff has considerable experience with pg&e's on bill finance program which has a minimum $5,000 loan and the application review is quite lengthy because they are not a bank and don't want to be in the business as such. some of our contractors avoid these on bill financing completely. there is talk at the cpuc of private financing but we fear higher rates for small customers. our department has led on the long road to a viable pace program and we think that will be a key offering to midand large size customers. again, we want to address small customers moving forward. this is what a comprehensive program might look like. this is a multi use build not guilty chinatown. in a future program we'd like to work with all the ray payers in a long-term phased project. we would start on the ground floor and do the led lighting we have done in so many of our other projects. then we'd move into our restaurant downstairs, we would build on our cool savings program, a pilot we are doing right now, looking to more accurately account for the savings from this project. we would move to the reside

pg&e got hit with a $1.6 billion fine for the san bruno pipeline explosion. ktvu's tom vacar was there as the public utilities commission hit them with the biggest fine in state history. >> reporter: 5 years ago it killed 8, injured dozens more and incinerated homes and destroyed pg&e's credibility and unearthed an unsavory relationship between the utility and the regulator. >> this explosion was a preventible disaster. that resulted from faulty record keeping, negligence over sight and a broken culture that looked the other way as pg&e prioritized profits over public safety. >> the decisions signal that we expect accountability and performance from the utilities that we regulate and from ourselves at the california public utilities commission. >> reporter: they can appeal but will it this time? >> we have to review the details but we do not expect to appeal the decision. >> reporter: for pg&e and the c.p.u.c. are personal criminal actions. she lost her husband, son and mother-in-law. >> i believe this is a case of criminal negligence. which lead to the death

&e enter miblz with the transition serve only pg&e we pay pg&e for that service and have open access and pg&e has open assess requirements that works to our favor with the extradition of your interconnection agreement that presents an opportunity and moving to the expeditiously challenge our water first policy we have basically on the power side n an operating realty the water first policy reduce our operating operations responsiveness to the power needs because power is really treated as a biproduct of water delivery so as we see dissected our water neatest over generation and we're less able to match our supply with our demand less able to respond and in the swhoelt market we'll see a wholesale price spike if we're not in need of water we can't take advantage of the generation of sales into that favorable market because we are producing electrical as a biproduct of flowing of water for san francisco's citizens on the waterside as i say that's an operating realty only the power side and similarly our final external challenge is the water agreement that sets the investment priorities