typical ways pg and e communicates would be used. that's certainly what they did with their climate smart program. >> thank you. commissioner mar? >> thank you, thank you, chair avalos, ms. hale, could you just explain what the geographical area of pg and e's territory is. er >> it serves most of northern california from about fresno north to the oregon border, from east to west, pg and e does not serve the north eastern portion of california or parts of the sierra nevada, and the northern part of the sierra nevada range. there are imbedded within that geography, i just described publicly owned utilities, for example, redding, so that's a pocket of that broad area that pg and e does not serve. >> but would you anticipate that a lot of their 30 thousand residential customers would probably be around berkeley and san francisco and marine county and santa cruz. >> yes, i would expect it to be coastal communities reflecting the values we see in other choices in those communities as well. >> and then you mention clean power sf will be ram

on pg&e's current rates, not pg&e's 100% green rate. and that's using all california recs and pg&e is using basically bad recs, recs that are not as good. the point is both what pg&e is proposing and local power are proposing are 100%. they're not light green. even though you can argue that pg&e in reality actually is. so, i don't know how we got off on this track of saying that what [speaker not understood] is proposing is light green because it's not. it's 100% using recs in a different way. using hetch hetchy, and using that power mix to get it all to the set up so that we're reaching price parity. and that's the key with the survey. the survey that is proposed to be done is not including the scenario that local power has [inaudible]. we need to also be asking customers, if you could get the same price as pg&e 3,000 jobs a year and you can get 100% green project, would you go for that? and the answer, of course, would probably be yes. that's not included in the survey work that's being done and it needs to be put in there before they

and the rest of it is really pg&e served. and, so, what we have before you is a very small scale 30 megawatt program and we were on the one hand trying to balance the risks of opt out with also the availability and certainty to be able to find demand for that 30 megawatts to test the water. so, that means, though, if you have a very small program, you're not able to spread out costs, other costs as widely. and then the other big policy decision which you pointed to, commissioner vietor, it's a possible right answer to use hetch hetchy, but then it will then commit what would be future use. so in the event we have a normal hydro year. so, to put a finer point on what this means per month for average rate payers is summarized on slide 9. and if i may just walking across the row that says tier 1 clean power sf premium dollars per month, going with the shell contract as you previously seen, that's about $10 more a month. and it looks to a firm then shaped 4-1/2 year contract that gives us 100% certainty of exactly what the rates

by pg&e at roughly $4.5 million. those service connections are subject to a number of rebate programs based on consumption. the san francisco public utilities commission, the cost of making that connection would be greater, but the proposal from the san francisco public utilities commission is that they would cover any additional costs above and beyond those that would be required for the pg&e service connection. and, in fact, that they would -- because they are not required to pay a state tax on the service connections, they would decrease the cost of our service connection by the cost of that tax, which is rough life $650,000. and their service connection would be subject to the same refunds as the pg&e service connection. so that we're at a very equitable basis, but realizing about a $650,000 initial savings on cost of service. it's worth noting also that the puc has additional energy-efficiency rebates that they have indicated that the transit center might be eligible for above and beyond those offered by pg&e. a

>> well, has there been any communications between pg and e and ibw regarding this? >> we have not looked into that specifically as staff. >> because to the extent that, you know, pg and e is legally prohibited from, you know, negatively campaigning against community choice aggregation, right, and to the extent that doing something like that, it could be done in a lot of different ways, not just directly but indirectly so i'm not saying there is any involvement and there probably isn't, but i do think that we need to make sure that we verify that because if there is some involvement, some connection, i think there is an argument that indirect involvement could be a violation, and so to the extent that, you know, we have legal protections that have been put in place by the puc and the state of california, we need to make sure we avail ourselves of those. >> well, i will check with the city attorney's office and i know the sfpuc will be interested in following up on that as well. >> and again, i don't have no reason to believe there's any involvement but i believe we h

the system of reliability was raised during the study interview with pg&e in november 2011 and pg&e followed up with the council getting support to ada third connection to the embarcadero station with this going to the portero substation and improve system reliability particularly into the downtown area in a major earthquake and allow pg&e more flexibility with work and unexpected equipment outages. they gave three routes and options to provide feedback and you can see from the box, the green, red and blue routes so pg&e is continuing to work with the city and the project design and the approval process and hopes to begin work in 2014 or 2015. so looking ahead we will be completing the life line interdependences study in 2013. we are also in the process of developing a work program then. in the last meeting in september we asked participants to identify issues to all operators and for the city to develop the restoration plan and performance expectations, restoration priority and capability. we will select a few of these to work together on over the next year. we plan to have quarterly meetin

>> i'll go ahead and talk about pg&e. i would say first off we've designed our own standards for what should happen in an earthquake or any other major emergency. our electric system is designed to worry about trees and wind and rain, which is what we see the most of, and tends to be the most damaging, but we have our own standards and our own expectations in terms of what our system should be able to withstand. add david pointed out, the risk is that an event will occur that is greater than what you have prepared for. that's always a possibility. in terms of working with others i think the important part is to make sure you understand what everyone is relying on you for. so it really comes back it an issue of priorities. what's going to come back first, what's going to come back second. for pg&e we always worry about bringing electrical generation back, those are don

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to all of the facility and is l a and the sewage treat support and lights and so that is brought the pg&e's portion of power provided to 800 megabecause and so the key assumption here is that of the 800 megawatts approximately, that only a haircut of 20% opts out and that 700 or 600 megawatts plus, still participate in this very much larger policeman and that is in comparison to where we have gotten authorization and an propylization from the board of supervisors to start off with a 20-30 megawatt program to walk before we run and to move forward on that and so it's really an order of magnitude to 20-30 vs. an suferlings of 700 megawatts it's 20 time plus the size. >> thank you. >>> yeah. >> i'm sorry commissioner cane. >>> on the sub lp i business case what i do not see is what happens who maintains these sites? would than our responsibility? >>> we asked the same question and the answer that we received is that there are multiple possibilities it can be a city maintained site it could be a private contactor maintained site or it can eventually be maintained by the customer or private

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i think the effort with lp i put forward was an idea that we can roll out a program parody w pg&e and it requires a lot of risk and so, i think that is what we presented. if we choose to scale it back as we have and is it scalable and they say no you have to implement the whole program to see it work and that is one of my concerns is you want to try something before you jump in in a billion dollar from a business perspective and now, i hear us saying well just throw it all out and i think staff was looking at the model of trying to get it parody and is it you know you know something worth pursuing at this time and i think i'm debating a feeling that may be it's not pursuing this bringing it down to zero meaning parody with p g and e but we can look at components of the model to maximize the build out to further reduce the cost and i think we are committed in dog that and try to max out the build-out. so i think what we have to do is kind-of get back together and may be with the advocates and say okay, from our conversations what do we feel comfortable moving forward with the living th

we talked with pg&e a few minutes ago. they say this is a low-pressure line leak first noticed around 10:30 when gas began to leak from under the street. the gas has been turned off as a precaution. coming up in a few minutes, the major announcement from pg&e on fixing infrastructure in san francisco. >>> there is a huge cleanup in san francisco after a water main break. it happened in the west portal area of 15th avenue and winona street. claudine wong joins us live from the scene and still a lot of activity going on. >> reporter: that's right. it's still a mess. on one side you have homeowners. they are trying to dig through mud and the mess that's been left behind and take a look over here. you can see crews trying to get to the bottom of what happened. what you are looking at is that 16-inch water main that broke this morning. it caused a sinkhole but right now they are trying to dig it up and just get access to it because you can't fix it if you can't get to it. take a look at these incredible pictures as water went r

we should look at that and wow how they doing that and still competitive with pg&e rates? and i think it's different from the enabling legislation for the contract it's hard to wrap our heads around t i was happy to hear ms. miller to come up with solutions and look at other things and this is a larger program and looking at others to come up with a solution is a great idea but i would like to hear more things like that from lafco. i think it's the role of the agency to serve as the positive, to move the paths between complicated and sometimes opposite opinions and i know it's challenging and we need to rely on puc for experts on the program but there is value what we're paying local power to do and i think it's a way to get beyond the arguments this is just doubling the rates. this say program for people that can afford to pay the premium cost. the work is innovative and i am start to appreciate looking at other national models. they're really in the forefront of what is going on and co-generation facilities and combine heat and power. people are starting to take a seriou

make room for the heavy machinery that has to come in, but first they are going to have to wait for pg&e for the gas department and cable people to mark the street and they want to be very careful before they dig the area up and they have to do that before they get to the pipe, it could be weather, it could be the ground shifting, it could be a lot ofhings and they will not know until they get underneath and take a look. claudine wong ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> the chp is blaming a wrong way driver for ahead on crash near tracy this morning. it happened shortly after midnight near north flynn road. the driver of the mitsubishi was going the wrong way and the drivers of both cars suffered rious injuries and it brought freeway traffic to a halt for nearly two hours and chp is investigating whether alcohol played a role. >>> there is a serious health warning after a student was hospitalized with meningitis. tara moriarty joins us for more on this story, tara? >> reporter: we are here at petaluma high school where students and parents have been placed on alert and that's because 17-y

there were 40,000 people that called pg and e about their gas. that means they call turned off their gas? did they need to do that? when do you have to? when there is a problem. how long did you think it takes pg and e to get out and turn it back on? 45,000 people. days weeks, may be a month. who has seen this in the streets. a lot of muck is in there is it's full of dirt and weeds you turn it to the right to tighten it and left to loosen it. your home work you have to look at your house, pop open the lid, look in there see what's going on in there it's not nice and clean like this. who has seen this around their house? everybody. each meter has a shut off. you want to find out where your gas meter is. you can keep track of your usage but you will know how to shut it off. here's the shut off. i have some tools up here, you can look at these. any hardware store has these. they fit on this and it allows you to turn off the gas. when we talk about the wheels it's these on top. if you have a broken pipe. they will spin like mad. when it's daylight, g

the current numbers that it's showing that we can have all the green energy at competitive prices at pg and e rates, so if we get this right and make sure that build-out is done properly, we can kick pg and e's fiekt, but there have been some drawbacks since the end of september when ed herrington left, we've had a breakdown in communication at our stakeholder meetings and we're not accomplishing [inaudible]. >> thank you. thank you very much. any members of the public who would like to comment? >> john rizzo at the sierra club, welcome, commissioner breed, just looked up on twitter where someone just tweeted that clean power sf supports the keystone excel pipeline, so you know, we should have a clean power sf twitter account as well as a facebook page to counter that. there are some concerns that kind of feed into this campaign that's going on, and the proposed maximum rate, we think it's too high, it's unnecessarily high. it would lock out a number of san francisco residents from being able to afford it. we think that lower rates are possible for some of the things that eric was just

the commission -- the california public utilities commission has set hearings on that request by pg&e for february 15 and so that's pretty much the deadline if there is going to be agreement as to what this program will look like it will be known by then and that's all i have to present to you up front. i am happy to answer questions or anything that the staff wants to augment what i said. thank you. >> commissioner campos. >> thank you chair avalos and again congratulations on your election as chair and i also note with a new board of supervisors coming in there are a couple of vacancies on the commission i hope will be filled shortly and we have some pretty talented newly elected members of the board they hope will serve on this body and we look forward to that. i wanted to ms. hale to follow up on a couple of things and thank you again for all your work. thank your staff. in terms of the rate setting process one of the concerns i have and maybe you can shed light on this, if i may through the chair, in terms of recouping the amounts of reserves that are going to be used here my und

pg&e stopped the leak and the building was deemed safe.>> the american business man who paid to visit the internationals space station in 2001 is planning to spend a married couple to mars. he said in washington, d.c. today it would be launched by his mars found in 2018. says the trip will take 501 days and he described it as a no frills journey with minimal food and recycled drinking water. >> haven't sent humans beyond the moon in 40 years. i have been waiting and waiting and i think it is time to put an tend to that lapse. >> he wants the trip to represent humanity with a man and a woman and because it is a long trip, he says it makes sense for them to be married and they have to be passed child bearing years because of the risk to fertility since they will be exposed to radiation. >>> two santa cruz police officers shot and killed during an investigation. in 2 minutes the criminal past about the gunman and the fears even his father had. >> and passed from child to child, the reason one school district is letting students with lice stay

>> yes. >> have we ever asked pg&e why they don't offer rebates? >> pg&e does offer rebates. pg&e offer rebates under the state california solar incentive program. >> then why do we need this program at all? >> that's the policy call of the board of supervisors and implementing the program initially. as we've talked about implementing our community ce

pg&e actually operates over 70,000 square miles. we have 19 division and 55 districts and every one of those districts has an emergency room or what's often referred to as a storm room and any one of those can open up and handle any other location's facility so we in essence have at least 55 sites we can go to and try to operate from, but certainly with respect to the command structure and how we operate, we want to be in the emergency center for a major event such as an earthquake or major storm, we have 3 facilities that can handle that fairly easily and several that can do duty with a couple days notice. >> mr. boland. >> we are very fortunate, we are fully embedded with the state operations center. should the state decide to close the operations center and relocate, we will follow very closely. we also have 10 virtual centers to operate out of to support the state operation and support the utility industries if in fact that's called upon. >> mr. brig. >> similar response to the pg&e in terms of back-up centers. the only thing i

>> yes. >> have we ever asked pg&e why they don't offer rebates? >> pg&e does offer rebates. pg&e offer rebates under the state california solar incentive program. >> then why do we need this program at all? >> that's the policy call of the board of supervisors and implementing the program initially. as we've talked about implementing our community choice aggregation program, clean power s efficienttion, we talked about tying it to that customer set. and when the board authorized the clean power sf program, they appropriated an additional $2 million to go solar sf customers of the cca program. so, so, you know

i'm thinking of pg&e bills and all the taxes on that. amazing.nk you. >>> well, it's payday for a group of san francisco restaurant workers forced to work long hours for short paychecks. kpix 5's da lin on the largest wage settlement of its kind in the city's history. >> reporter: community activists claim that dim sum restaurant cooked up a raw deal for some of its former workers. >> around 11 hours a day. >> reporter: forcing them to work in slave-like conditions. >> six days a week. >> reporter: and cheating them of their wages. >> earning wages of less than $4 an hour. >> reporter: instead of swallowing their treatment, a fed-up worker came forward three years ago saying she is also worked as a maid at the employer's home. now a settlement to repay overtime and back wages to zen former workers of dick lee pastry. it's the largest wage theft case in san francisco totaling about $525,000. while the activists celebrated their victory at the city hall press conference, the seven workers received their checks in a separate room. those workers decl

so we did receive proposals from both pg&e and puc to provide power source to the tjpa and based on the schedule for finalizing construction documents this may we really need to commit to the space program that would be associated with one service or the other. that is why we're bringing this issue to you today. under the cpuc as a regulated utility it's pretty straightforward that tjpa would fall underneath the cpuc rate e20 classification and in the proposal that the puc has submitted to us, they would provide us a rate that would be 10% lower than the published cpuc rate that pg&e would be required to meet. the pg&e connection, the recommended connection, they presented three alternatives, but the one recommended to us was the connection to the downtown network grid. which is the kind of standard arrangement in areas where that service is available. and they would serve the transit center with two different points of service, which would be fully redundant and neither would be able to support the operations of the transit center, if one point of service failed. the san francisco puc

it's used for service conduits to take up the power from pg&e down to the meter. >> so on the outside of buildings sometimes you'll have the wires coming over from pg&e. >> the service drop. >> and i brought something called -- >> a weather head. >> weather head. here it is. >> so at the top you have the weather head. and the conductors come into the service drop. >> look at the front of the weather head. you see these little knockouts here. you knock it out and you run your service conductors. >> and the conductors go down the pipe. >> in san francisco we have special requirements for service entrance equipment because of the corrosive marine environment. right? >> that's correct. >> so what are some of our special local requirements? >> well, we require the conduit to either be aluminum rigid conduit or galvanized steel conduit. both of them, galvanized or aluminum, they are resis tonight corrosion. pg & e also has a rule, inch and a quarter minimum if they're going to attach the service drop to the conduit. because of that the standard minimum size is an inch and a quarter. >> ok.

the campus is just half a mile away from the site of the 2010 pg&e pipe -- pg&e pipeline explosion. >> my kids are still having nightmares and i still remember that night. >> the district said they need to close the school because of inned a written rollment -- inadequate enrollment. it gives parents more options on where to sends their kids next -- send their kids next fall. >>> same sex couples will ask for marriage licenses knowing they will be refused. supporters say this year's event takes on an added significance and next month they will hear arguments on proposition 8 on same sex marriages. >>> they are expected to spend more with an average of $131 with cards, special candy and dinner and people are expanding their definition of their valentine. they will spend lesson significant others and more and parents friends and kids, still valentine's day is for lovers. >> golden gate bridge, you know please have a romantic is expected to show some thing. >>> the event is scheduled to get underway and a ten des are asked to -- people attending are asked to bring trash bags. >> i am so

. >> have we ever asked pg&e why they don't offer rebates? >> pg&e does offer rebates. pg&e offer rebates under the state california solar incentive program. >> then why do we need this program at all? >> that's the policy call of the board of supervisors and implementing the program initially. as we've talked about implementing our community choice aggregation program, clean power s efficienttion, we talked about tying it to that customer set. and when the board authorized the clean power sf program, they appropriated an additional $2 million to go solar sf customers of the cca program. so, so, you know, we do certainly see an ongoing opportunity that links the go solar sf program to our customer base as opposed to pg&e's and i think that's one of the policy questions that the general manager is saying -- we're looking at in the long run. >> yeah, that's one opportunity. the other opportunity is that, you know, as you know, for general fund departments, we are actually charging below the cost of delivery. so, one of the things that we are also weighing is if we're goin

pg&e was able to get the power back on to everybody.investigation still goes on. >>> the chp is investigating the death of a homeless woman who was hit and killed on a santa rosa roadway while she was mouth looking for her lost -- out looking for her lost dog. it happened near west avenue and meek lin court. investigators say the 35-year- old woman was looking for her lost chihuahua when she stepped out in traffic. she was hit by two cars and died. the chp says both drivers are cooperating with the investigation. >>> 8:33. a health alert has been issued as two petaluma schools. that's after a 17-year-old student was hospitalized with a highly contagious blood infection. tara moriarty just spoke to a school principal and has more information about the sick student. >> reporter: good morning. the principal here at petaluma high school believes this was an isolated incident. here is a copy of the warning that went out to students both here as well as casa grande. it describes the symptoms of meningococcal disease and describes how serious