pgm's platinum and paladium have done better than gold and silver. i don't think anything changes here, i think the metals get that on the pgm. if you look at fisher, this is like looking at the mini series "lie to me". this is called the correlation risk xgt the dollar is going down because of qe. it is 0.96. like you can't sit there with a straight face. that is what is going on. if you are going to trade gold, oil or anything else, you have to know what happened today. for example, there was no spr rumor. there was no fat finger. that is what is driving the commodity markets. >> can we talk about this weird par tu pattern of training? you pull up the chart on say esv. you see the explosion to the upside and then it falls lower. the theory is that they bought into the cloves and then had to dump the thing. >> you have had two incidences in two days. you have had the oil market fall on rumors and when you have two events such as this, what is someone's propensity to step up and trade? my propensity is to say i'm going to stand back and wait. >> is t