. >> timberland was a little more technologically dense and ethereal, whereas pharrell wasn't as out there. he did like dance tracks. i said, it's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes. >> i am getting so hot i wanna take my clothes off. >> it was a little more gritty. it was very, very intricate, but very rhythmically driven. oh, this my. >> all the girls stomp your feet like this. >> pop stars figure out that you need hip hop cred. and you need a hip hop producer. cause there ain't no hollaback girl. >> there ain't no hollaback girl. >> the most interesting thing about the 2000 was that you had a grouping of hip hop producers who were crossing over into topping pop charts. >> kanye is another one. you know, he's producing and working with jay-z and alicia keys and ludacris and janet jackson. but you know, in there he wants to be his own star. so he releases his first album, the college dropout. yo g, they can't stop me from rapping. >> kenny, the first single for college dropout was a song called through the wire. i spit it through the wire, man. kanye west gets into a

most of them, yeah. >> well, a lot of them. >> well, a lot of them. >> from pharrell. >> from pharrell. >> shake it off, taylor swift. you like that one? >> i do, but not at 3:00 in the morning. maybe it's the time that i'm commuting. that's the problem. but i like something tranquil. >> depends how you're travelling, doesn't it? if you're on the. i think i imagine it'd be different if you're in the car compared to the train, compared to any other way. >> your travel point. it's a very good point. and if you've got any favourite tunes that you like listening to, i don't know what ruth dixie's favourite tune would be back in the day. well she was, she wouldn't have been having sort of music on her way to work because she's too old. she's a world war ii veteran who's just celebrated her 103rd birthday. >> oh. >> oh. >> congratulations to you, ruth dixie. she was a former women's raf sergeant, and she's been asked, what does he always do? what is the secret to long life? a daily glass of sherry. she says. >> i thought it was guinness. like. >> style so good. good on her. i love it when pe