negotiate if it isa they are willing to negotiate if it is a question of autonomy of alteration phehlukwayonomy they enjoy. otherwise it is the rule of law, the position taken my budget has been a legal one backed by the law of force in order, and not a political one to discuss alternatives of one sort or the other. at least to negotiate. is his position more difficult in terms of what we've heard from various eu sources and leaders over the last few days, absolutely backing madrid's position. yes, that is the big problem. it is a problem also about mediation. because there is very little interest in europe in any form of mediation, because many european leaders, including the eu, have said this is an internal affair. one of the reasons they are not interested is because they are concerned about substate nationalism in europe as a whole. we're talking about corsica, scotland. there is very little interest about encouraging secession in europe. stay with this. we note you are going to take us through about what the words the catalan president use. but the scene is absolutely set up for this