liz mcallister was married to phil berrigan for how many years? they married in probably 1969 or 1970's secretly, and until phil passed away in 2002 or 2003. brian: this is about the harrisburg conspiracy, trying to kidnap henry kissinger. in the end, there was something called the love letters back and forth between these two, phil berrigan and liz mcallister. let's watch this. [video clip] >> not saying that it wasn't talked about or approached, but it was no. that was it. of course, howard got back to j edgar hoover in december. that's obvious. the letters. >> just stupid letters i wrote to phil about some of the things people were talking about, not realizing they were always monitoring his mail. but also, no matter how subtlely you try to say something, they will try to make something of it. >> when the revelation came out of what they were really about, that was a shocker. and that was across the board, especially when you are sitting back and knowing what the government knows more about their relationship than you do. brian: how surprised w