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also in london, phil clark, professor of international politics at so last university of london, a very warm welcome to you all. thank you. thank you for joining us. you know inside story. i'd like to begin with you phil clark, if i may, returning the tooth of the 1st congolese prime minister. i mean, the whole thing just speaks to the brutality of all belgian rule. i guess colonialism at that time. what does it return mean? what does it signify? i think the return of la members to really is a reminder of just how much belgium and particularly that the belgium monarchy, to build belgium leadership sol from conger are including the physical remains of someone who is politically important as, as patrice lombard. so it's a reminder that this wasn't just about the massive theft of physical goods, the looting of, of congress wells, or it was also that the best of human lives. and, and of course, this is also a reminder of the importance of luba english history or a sense of what was last this described, missed opportunity in connolly's politics. this revolutionary leader who was assassinated

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. >> i just want to pick up on something that you said and pass it over to phil clark., as a victim from cold war politics, i haven't heard that. is that something that's discussed in academics, exploring the postcolonial legacy? >> not typically, no. the way that belgium tends to be talked about in these debates is, firstly, in terms of its colonial legacy. so that precedes any of these cold war dynamics that pre--- that theodore was talking about. that's where the exploitation begins, that's where the pillaging of congolese wealth begins. but then what we see is belgian -- belgian continuing to metal and congolese policies. i travel to congolese regularly. i was just there a month ago. the perspective is that belgium influence, negative influence in the country continues up into the present in terms of very opaque deals with mining companies, meddling in political affairs, the mistreatment of the congolese diaspora living in congolese today. what we are talking about is the story of fraud, unequal relations between belgium and congo from the colonial time through the

1946 the caa could partner with broadway celebrities and phil madison square garden was 15,000 supporters. however by 1947 us attorney general tom clark had labeled the council subversive. by 1950 the caa couldn't even rent the garden. the post-war red scare and cold war sought to suffocate groups like the caa illustrative of the ubiquitous repressive environment according to the new york times. the caa was nothing more than a communist controlled organization supported mainly by --. this is an important acknowledgment a confession to highlights to convergent facts one the rule in class tacitly admitted that black militancy comfortable with red allies was a potent political force and two the emergent red scare would focus laser-like on black-led communist organizations like the caa and the crc the civil rights congress of which hunton was a bail fund trustee. hunting was succinct and to the point in an august 1949 letter to the daily worker. he defended the recently indicted communist party usa leaders while also taken aim at the enemy white supremacy. he wrote the record will show that the fight for the freedom of the communists is a

. >> phil, "the washington post" has a piece on an oval office meeting between then president trump and jeffrey clark, who is someone he wanted to put in -- he was an environmental lawyer in the justice department. he wanted to put him in over jeffrey rosen who was the acting ag after william barr quit because rosen was telling him, as bill barr had told him, there was no election fraud. so then there's a long segment of the read which says another lawyer in the justice department told trump that clark had no qualification to be attorney general. he has never been a criminal attorney. he never conducted a criminal investigation in his life. he has never been in front of a grand jury much less a trial jury. clark said, i've done a lot of complicated appeals and environmental litigation and things like that. according to donahue's deposition. that's right, donahue said. you are an environmental lawyer. how about you go back to your office and we will call you when there's an oil spill. as other segments of the deposition from donahue to the committee also says that rosen and donahue explained to the pr

phil, tie this together for us. tie eastman to jeffrey clark. that back to the white house and to the effort to overturn >> yeah, both eastman and jeffrey clark and rudy giuliani were central figures in the plot, in the inside the white house campaign for trump to overturn the results of the election. eastman was the lawyer who had been in the run-up to january 6 advising then president trump, coaching him on how he might be able to manipulate the laws, manipulate the constitutional responsibilities of the vice president in certifying the electoral college count in a way to effectively overturn the results, by sending -- by rejecting the electors, sending them back to the states and hoping republican state legislatures in a number of the key states could flip the results for trump. that, of course, was not legal. it was nonetheless the strategy that eastman laid out in private meetings with president trump, with mark meadows, other aides as well as with vice president pence. jeffrey clark was the figure that trump wanted to install as the acting