. >> at the beginning of the decade, we get the dominance of phil donahue, and that is a maturation ofeemed to talk to them in the audience and through the tv screen. >> i'm glad you called. kiss the kids. we'll be back in just a moment. >> if you look at the body of work we've had, you're going to see the '80s there. >> i'm not here to say you're wrong, but let's understand this. when you bring a moral judgment without knowing them, against them for the way that they look, they feel that confirms the reason for their rebellion, if that is what you want to call it. >> he really believed that daytime television needed to talk about the ideas we were thinking about, the issues we were concerned about. >> i don't want to characterize his question, but why don't you get this fixed instead of doing this screwy stuff? >> there is not a single recorded case in history of any transsexual that ever, through psychological treatment, changed. it has never happened yet. >> and we were putting very important people on the program. all kinds of people. gay people. people going to jail. people runnin

i think he's probably the laziest president i've ever seen. >> the audience, for phil donahue, builtrah. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> hello, everybody. hello! >> oprah has a particularly magical combination of her own background, her own experience, her own incisive mind, and empathetic spirit. >> thank you. i'm oprah winfrey, and welcome to the very first national "oprah winfrey show"! >> i was surprised at the rocket pace that oprah show took off. because it took us a lot longer. "the donahue show" rearranged the furniture, but oprah remodeled the whole house. >> people out there don't understand what you mean when you say we're in love. and remember questioning my gay friend, you mean you feel about him the way i feel about -- it is a strange concept for a lot of people to accept. >> oprah was connecting with people in a way that no one had on tv before. and it was really special to see. >> did you know that for the longest time i wanted to be a fourth grade teacher because of you. >> i was not aware of inspiring anyone. >> i think you did exactly what teachers are supposed to do,

. >> she's the one who knocked phil donahue out of -- >> she's in your home, in your living room. >>r friend, empathetic in the way trump is not really. she's never been in any way ethnic or racial, it's always been for everyone in trouble. i do get thrilled thinking about what a nice person she is. anyway, the roundtable is sticking with us. and up next, a rare lack behind the curtain. cameras a rolling as trump starts to negotiate the immigration bill. was this a potemkin village? was this a show because michael wolff knocked his block off in that book? it was fascinating to watch today. we'll be right back. small plates, with big flavor- like yucatan shrimp covered in chili-lime butter and caramelized pineapple. and if you like hot, buttery maine lobster, get your hands on this petite red lobster roll. for new entrees, explore globally-inspired dishes like dragon shrimp with a spicy soy-ginger sauce. with so many new dishes and all the classics you crave, what are you waiting for? come taste what's new at red lobster. you or joints. something for your heart... but do you take some

phil lebeau, let's talk about upgrading the u.s. roads and bridges. joining us ahead of the u.s. commerce infrastructure summit, tom donahuend ceo, thank you for being here. >> glad to be here >> what is the chambers' official position on this? what should be happening in terms of infrastructure, what should be spent and how we come up with those funds? >> i think we're 25 years behind at least in bringing up our roads, our brejs, our transit systems and then on larger projects, issues of ports and airports and dredge the waterways and all of the energy driven issues for power and generation, all of these are behind so the chamber in working with the government and talking to people all over the country is coming forward with a plan that is to talk about we're not saying it has to be these way. we say these are the issues that should get the most discussion and i can tell new four sentences, one, we should take roads, bridges, and the issue of transit and put that together and the way to pay for it is to increase the federal fuel tax for the first time in 25 years second, we should then go to the other major issue, ports,