they have people who don't know who phil donohue. he was one of the best known people in the country 20 years ago. host: was he your running made or campaign manager? guest: no, no. host: but he was on your side. guest: phil donohue is the greatest exponent of the first amendment practice in the 20th century in america. he had me on 32 times and he had reverend falwell on 32 times. he had people on he disagreed with and he gave them air time. that is when you know he believes in the first amendment. host: you are in the 2000 campaign for president. [video clip] >> i hope that those of you have who are talking with others who are wavering on the least of the worst or lesser of two evils syndrome will remind them of what franklin delano roosevelt said each citizen is equal to each other citizen in the ballot booth where privacy reigns and they can only answer to their conscience. and a vote for conscience, a vote for your hopes, a vote for your dreams, a vote for a higher expectation level of what our country can become to what it can

guest: phil donohue is the greatest exponent of the first practice in the 20th century in america. times and he had falwell on 32 times. he had people on he disagreed with and he gave them air time. that is when you know he in the first amendment. 2000 you are in the campaign for president. [video clip] >> i hope that those of you have talking with others who are wavering on the least of the lesser of two evils of rome will remind them roosevelt in dell knano said each citizen is equal to citizen in the ballot and where privacy reigns they can only answer to their conscience. and a vote for conscience, a hopes, a vote for your dreams, a vote for a higher what our n level of country can become to what it can mean to the world, those are votes that you need to regist of two , not the lesser evils where at the end of the day you are still left with each. ost: what did you get out of the three times you ran for president? guest: we demonstrated that it two-party tyranny and doesn't tolerate competition. it doesn't like more voices an for the voters even though the voters poll that they