a short time ago, my colleague phil gail, spoke with a member of the taliban about the groups push for international recognition and the difficulties the country is facing. here's that interview. i've talked to her about k springs for the total balance of foreign affairs ministry. he joins us from afghanistan's capital, kabul, welcome to the w. thank you for having me. why should the international community recognize and therefore, that just in my eyes, the taliban given you a track record on human rights? i. the current government understand the new government that has come to power is manifest reality and the world needs to engage with it as the, the government that is currently in place has actually fulfilled the criteria for a body to be recognized as an official state. according to under international law, and in accordance with article one of the month of a day of conference, $9.00 to $33.00, there are 4 essentials that they need to fulfill. number one, and that has to have defined geography 2 is that it has to have permanent population and the geography of 3 is that the governme