played golf another the public golf course down by the jefferson memorial, but along the way phil grahamhen the post was the third-ranked newspaper came to herb who was a bachelor and saved some money and said i need an investment, he invested in the post, and when herb died, haines johnson in the film says -- the lawyer called me and said herb has asked you to be on a foundation, and he named 20 people to be on a foundation. and haines said well, may i ask how much money did herb leave? and i thought he said $6 million. he said $60 million after taxes, 90 million, so herb had accumulated all of this money all. >> yeah. incredible character. it's a wonderful story to tell. and you tell it very well. it's great to have you here. >> thank you antonio. >> the show may be over but the conversation continues on our website, aljazeera.com/consider this, or on our facebook or google plus pages. we'll see you next time. ♪ john calipari