phil gramm alluded to others. i want to get your thoughts on this. reagan experience and all, that keep in mind, the economy was in much, much rougher shape. >> and he was much more popular. >> the top rate to 70 to 50%, but the one thing that was interesting about it is he defanged the boon to the rich argument by constantly framing it as it's your money, i'm not going to delineate who gets to keep money and who doesn't. everyone gets a tax cut, and wasn't this hatred of the rich that seems to permeate the discussion. >> particularly on the left. neil: right. and wondering how that factors into this? >> i agree the sales part is a big thing. can donald trump pull a ronald reagan and sell this thing. the other thing is ronald reagan was incredibly popular president. donald trump is incredibly unpopular president. our viewers are going nuts because they voted for him. the majority of the country didn't. neil: remember ronald reagan, the assassination attempt garnered support and rallied the country he would have gotten the tax cuts, but not by the mar

can balance the budget is to grow the economy at its historical race, about 3.5% a year senator phil grammjournal" this week. in the short run, i could care less about budget deficits all i want is growth now, orrin hatch, great american, old friend of mine, fantastic. i got to go down there, though, have to have some therapy about the 15% corporate tax rate we'll have a therapy session. >> you think it's doable >> absolutely. look, president trump keeps saying it. steven mnuchin keeps saying it i call mnuchin the imposter of growth there are two main numbers in this i want to reduce this whole tax plan to two numbers. 3 and 15 okay 3 is the growth rate that will be plugged in as they reject the cbo estimates. and 15%, if you give me 16% or 17%, is going to be the corporate tax rate we're the highest -- china, remember them, 15% corporate tax rate why shouldn't we be able to? of course we can because the growth pays for all of it. and orrin's -- we need a refresher course we're going to have some supply side therapy i'm going to go in, see him, with my buddy, steve moore. >> one more thing