you know, and when i came in on the show, nobody was doing drugs, i came in with phil hartmann and dana car vi and jan hooker, everybody was pretty responsible. it was sensible hours for me and i got to meet some of my idols that i grew up watching or listening to, paul mccartney, mick yager, all these people that i loved and got to be foreigns with. so i loved the -- friends with. >> you lived through a period on that show, i suspect, when people say the show's not as good as it used to be. there's always those saturday night dead stories, women, the show use toed be good in the old days but now not you just don't pay attention to that stuff, right? >> the first time i ran into chevy chase, he was talking about the show. a lot of people don't realize this in the original years we had about one out of three shows that was good. they don't remember that. >> they roman ta size the. >> probably like the beatles, a little bit now, people say well when nealon and car vi and those guys, that was funny then, this is not funny. >> always going to be that. >> oh, you guys were the best, you know