also from the academy, officer phil helmer is working on the pt st aspect of it, how to deal with that aspect. we're moving along there. mistakenia lange, our grant manager, is working closely with the subcommittee, trying to reach out and find grants. that's productive as far as research goes. we have not submitted any yet. part of the process is find out what other city departments are doing. generally grants are only given to one -- one city, one county, so if the health department's already sought that grant, we don't want to cut them out. so we're doing that kind of research but i think that's moving forward. and chief sir just this week sent a letter to the p.o.a. offering them an opportunity to meet so when they're ready to go, there's no delay if the labor respective. things are moving. train is moving out of the station. it's still going slowly but i think we're getting there. with that i think we'll have an update on what they've done. to be quite candid, they may not tout their own horns but i will tout it. they've been doing the lion's share of the work, heavy lifting to de