phil mattingly up on capitol hild by that. phil mattingly up on capitol hill. only a handful of republicans know what's inside. what's the strategy here? why do the people inside that room feel that that's the best way to handle it? >> reporter: it's a bad look, that's republicans inside congress are saying they don't have enough information and specifically they don't like the process. but one thing is for sure, this is deliberate, this is exactly what senator majority leader mitch mcconnell wants to do. there are incredibly divisive issues inside the republican party, whether it's the medicare advantage, the structure of the tax credit, the reason they're doing this behind closed doors, shield their member, allow them to get things out on the table and allow them to fight it out behind the scenes. i have heart from several senators, several top senate aides saying we don't want to repeat what we saw in the house, a very long and difficult process. that's why it's behind closed doors. it's subject to a lot of criticism. but when you talk to senate leadership,

>> all right, phil mattingly, thank you.k it down with cnn law enforcement analyst james gagliano, retired supervisory agent. you've been in these sort of details where you protect folks. there were two capitol police officers here because steve scalise is in the line of succession and is the third highest ranking republican. tell us a little bit about how difficult it is to protect all of these people in the house and the senate. >> very, very difficult. and again, if we want to turn the united states into a police state or establish martial law, we can keep everybody safe, but that's not going to happen here. for the dignitary protection details, the vip folks, and overseas, the folks who do that are the diplomatic security service. secret service, obviously, handles it here. what's difficult for them is the expenditure of resources, because for every trip that you have a dignitary go on, you have to send an advanced team to where you're going. >> right. >> then you have to have the folks that are protecting the detailee,

our coverage begins with phil mattingly on capitol hill. >> reporter: it's a top-line number that seems tailor-made to spook republicans on the hill. 22 million uninsured americans over a ten-year period, according to the congressional budget office. the score everybody was waiting for. the repercussions were immediate. senator susan collins, moderate member from maine, saying after the score was released that she would not vote to move forward on the senate bill. a procedural vote. that's a must-have if they actually want to get this done this week which still is majority leader mitch mcconnell's prerogative. that's what he wants to do. she joins rand paul, dean heller, and other senators saying they're not willing to move this forward without major changes. three's a magic number. you only have 52 republican senators. if three are not willing to move this forward, you have a serious problem. that makes the behind-the-scenes all the more important. the real quick is as republicans try and get this done as soon as this week in the wake of such a bad score, will anybody come on board no

phil mattingly, thank you. rick santorum is a former republican senator from pennsylvania and cnn political commentator. brian fallon's here, cnn political commentator. and page pate, legal attorney and analyst. i want to talk about executive privilege. "the new york times" questioned whether james comey will be allowed to testify, saying the president could try to invoke executive privilege here. would that apply, especially since the president seems to have no problem talking about the conversations he may have had with james comey? >> john, i think that's an important point. yes, the white house could try to assert executive privilege to prevent jim comey from discussing any sort of meeting he had with the president, but every time a white house has tried to raise executive privilege and a court reviewed it, the court looks for two things. number one, is executive privilege being raised for the public's interest or to try to protect the president? and number two, is executive privilege being raised on an iss

go to our congressional correspondent phil mattingly up on capitol hill. l, the congressional budget office score on the republican health care bill, it could come as early as later this afternoon, but tell us about the changes that have just been released. >> reporter: a small but important tweak related to consous coverage. anyone in the marketplace, loses coverage, does not buy new coverage within 60 days is forced to wait a full six months before getting coverage. this is not like the individual mandate on some level, which is you want young healthier people to be incentivized to get into the marketplace making it work better and spreads out the risk pool in general and hopefully drives costs down a little. what they're trying to do here is essentially incentivize people who would want insurance for long periods of time to get back into the marketplace as quickly as possible to avoid that six-month penalty here. this isn't the individual mandate. it's a watered down version of a mandate but necessary for the health of the marketplace. the big question n

cnn's phil mattingly has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: there was some optimism if no clear pathrward yet. at least when it comes to health care. look, senators moving things behind closed doors again, trying to figure out a way to hammer forward on a deal. how that deal's actually going to come about still an open question. one of the biggest issues is that this isn't about one policy here or one provision there. this is about ideology. inside the republican conference, all 52 senators, some have starkly different views about the government's role in health care. take a listen to what maine senator susan collins had to say. >> there is significant opposition to the remember bill here in the senate. the opposition comes from various quarters and ideological spectrum is really wide. so it's going to be a challenge. >> a key element here is this -- susan collins very much so has fundamental, that's her word, problems with this bill. she's kind of on the moderate side of things. if you look on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, rand paul is in a similar place but for very d

phil mattingly is following that. phil, they are behind closed doors. what did we learn?are learning. senators didn't know the d direction this is heading. we are getting a sense

phil mattingly, thank you. meantime, the president's daughter and chief adviser ivanka trump is speaking out this morning about the james comey testimony on capitol hill, largely echoing her father's talking points. listen. >> well, my father felt very vindicated in all the statements that he's been making and feels incredibly optimistic. >> ivanka trump's more measured words in stark contrast to her father's latest broadside attack, tweeting, "i believe the james comey leaks will be far more prevalent than anyone ever thought possible. totally illegal. very cowardly." ivanka trump said that. let's go to jason carroll, who is live for us at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, poppy. you heard it there. basically, this president really making an effort to go after the former fbi director, james comey. you saw there in the tweet, basically saying if what he didn't do was illegal, at the very least, according to the president, what he did was cowardly. as you know, comey, for his part, basica

we are going to phil mattingly on capitol hill. er, phil because the republicans posted the bill online, 142 pages. what do we know? >> reporter: 142 pages. the bcra. the key elements, we know a good deal about. it repeals the obamacare taxes with the exception of the cadillac tax. it appeals some mandates, key elements we knew were going to be in there. the details like medicaid, whether the expansion goes away as quickly as the house version did. the answer is no. it goes more slowly. that is something they wanted to have in the bill. on the tax credit side, a lot of criticism from the president himself that the subsidies were not generous enough. that's largely backed up by analysts that show it would be difficult for lower income individuals to be able to finance their ability to pay for health care. this bill tries to address that changing the way the tax credit would be applied here, going by income instead of age entirely, trying to make it less flat. that's something there as well. a shift from the affordable care about subs

go to phil mattingly on capitol hill. so the word they use, flowi inta grenade into negotiations? >> reporter: there's concern. this late stage, tossing in a new element and explaining what they actually mean by that. conserveties n conservatives, ted cruz, for instance, a tough process but conservatives advocated for a clean repeal bill. the type of bill voted on almost every member of the senate voted on in 2015. if this is now on the table, according to the president, the concern is that those conservatives that have negotiated in good faith will pull back saying look, have the 2015 repeal bill, more than happy to do that. that's the concern. a back story, poppy how this came to be. i'm told senator ben sasse was talking to the white house about this idea the president endorsed this morning. this morning sent a letter, the president. shortly thereafter on "fox and friends" advocating for that idea and then the president tweeted he supported the general idea and senator sasse tweeted, glad you agree mr. president. if no agreement by next week, two steps. repeal first and then sp

there are a couple of things i would add to what phil mattingly reported. there's no executive privilege for illegal conduct or conversations in furtherance of illegal conduct. the executive privilege is not absolute. we also found from the 1974 case that if there's evidence that's needed for a pending criminal investigation, the executive privilege has to yield to that need and to the extent that bob mueller or anybody else is looking for information, you know, you don't get to just hide it just because you want to. then finally look he went on national television and talked about his conversations with james comey. so you throw away a lot of the privilege if you talk about it on national television. if, however, the white house does attempt this, it would be, i imagine, purely a stalling tactic and certainly focus a lot of attention on the question of what exactly is it that they are trying to hide. >> the question of the role of backlash here, sara, there was backlash after the president initially fired james comey, there was backlash after the travel ba

let's go to phil mattingly on capitol hill. what are they saying? >> reporter: one called it rolling a hand grenade into it. they are pretty far along. they are not close to a deal yet and senators have left town, they have been working hard to bridge the divide. the idea that there could be another option on the table, one, poppy, that conservatives like very much. the idea of voting on a 2015 repeal only bill. if that gets back on the table, that could complicate things. this is also a clear shift in position from the president. take a listen to what he said late last year. >> we'll do it simultaneously and it will be fine. we're not going to have a two-day period or a two-year period where there's nothing. it will be repealed and replaced. >> reporter: interesting to note, the republican leaders wanted to do a straight repeal bill vote and then move on and deal with replace later. they heard from their own conferences that is a bad idea. they wouldn't have the votes to complete it. what is the genesis of the president's tweet this morning? there'

phil mattingly, no reporter in america better understands what is going on and where this is headed thantell us everything. >> reporter: the best way to view yesterday, the release of the discussion draft was that. it was a discussion draft. it is the first step in a complex bill. senators said they cannot support the bill as it stands. you have to pay attention to moderates. dean heller, susan collins have concerns about the direction of the bill. what is happening behind the scenes? senate is out right now. they have gone home for the weekend. how to address the concerns, thread the needle, not lose conservatives but keep moderates on as well. the ability to find that sweet spot defines whether or not this bill can get to 50 votes or whether or not it can move back to the house. the question is where does the white house stand on this, particularly in the wake of senators coming out saying they have problems with the initial bill. listen to what president trump said on fox this morning. >> you have the white house, republicans have the house and senate but senators are not on board. >>

phil mattingly joins me.planning to put trump -- put russia and president trump at the center of this hearing. how? >> dead center. it's worth noting, it's not just rod rosenstein who will be on the witness stand, it's dan coats, it's michael rogers. it's a discussion you have been having in terms of these individuals at the center of just about every major russia bombshell story we have seen over last couple of months. democrats are keenly aware of that. aides tell me that they are going to make that a very prominent issue in this hearing. when it cops mes to coats and rogers, they want to know what president trump asked them. you have been talking about "the washington post" report. democrats want them on the record, want to pin them down on anything they may have heard. when it comes to rod rosenstein, there's similar questions for him. what was his role in the comey firing? what was the influence of the president in his decision to write that memo that many officials point to as the rational for that firi

with us to share their reporting and insights, jackie ckucinich and cnn's phil mattingly. i think i know the answer that, this is who he is, but, why? >> and wouldn't the president's obsession with women and blood, at least it wasn't about her, whatever, but it's just -- it isn't even just about women. it'sbout decency and fitness for office. >> even in a private setting, equally shocking. but tweeted out by the president of the united states in a public for um is outrageous. no question about that, and it seems to indicate this, and a lot of his tweets this week, there is a kind of personal grievance he is fixated on that has overwhelmed everything else going on in the world. you are the president of the united states. you've got health care cooking. north korea. you have syria and yet this is what is on his -- >> a signature campaign item. the immigration issue before the house of representatives. for all the talk about no signature achievements, hasn't signed health day, a day he could be talking up about getting things done or moving things along. we know he doesn't li

phil mattingly on capitol hill. sara murray, thanks to you as well. >>> donald trump demanded that the justice department crack down on leakers. now a national security agency contractor is in custody after being accused of leaking a classified government document on russian hacking attempts. her name, reality winner, a 25-year-old contractor in georgia. sources say winner sent the document to an online news site called "the intercept." diane gallagher joining us now. what was in the document? how did investigators track down the suspected leaker? >> wolf, we're talking about a classified report from the national security agency dated may 5th of this year. it details how a russian intelligence unit attempted to hack into the voting system. we should point out there is no evidence that any votes were actually affected by this attempted hack. but according to cnn sources, the classified reports that winner allegedly leaked is the same one "the intercept" described in the piece. it gives us details of how it is russian

let's go to our congressional correspondent phil mattingly. new information on what comey and comey won't say. >> this information comes from our colleague jake tapper who according to a source close to comb el that when jim comey comes to testify in front of the senate intelligence committee he won't be making any type of kind of assignment or to blame as to whether or not there's any legal grounds for obstruction of justice. the rationale is he didn't believe he's in a position to do so. he's there as a factins with. he's going to least legal analysis to others. what do those facts entail? those are already out there and they will be covered by comey according to this person, the first and foremost the loyalty pledge requested by president trump according to sources familiar with jim comey. there's also the request by president trump for jim comey to ease off the investigation of michael flynn. now, wolf, both of those issues will be dealt with, will be addressed by jim comby in his testimony according to this person. one thing to keep in mi

let's bring in phil mattingly on capitol hill for more. >> reporter: dave and christine, if you talk to senate democrats they recognize this is an urgent moment in their effort to try and derail republican efforts to repeal and replace the affordable care act. why? mitch mcconnell has made clear, the senate majority leader, that he wants the senate to vote on that repeal and replace plan before the july 4th recess. that means next week. i'm told a vote likely to come on thursday if things continue to progress. that is exactly why on monday you saw senate democrats take to the floor and start to register objections. what will those entail? trying to slow down senate business. nothing can move forward in the senate without every senator agreeing for just that to happen. that's exactly what the senate democrats are going to try and stop from happening. that means floor business, committee hearings, all sorts of things that they want to do to try to gum up the works a bit. guys, the most interesting element is there is still no bill. republicans haven't come to agreement on some of the k

phil mattingly is "outfront." this is causing a problem for mitch mcconnell's cause when he wants to get the vote in the next 72 hours. >> reporter: they are not helpful. that's the most simple way you can put it. 20 million fewer insured by 2026. for people like dean heller, the nevada republican senator, susan collins of maine, they made clear before the cbo report came out that they were going to pay close attention to it. there was an assumption, based on the house number, which was 23 million, the restructured tax credit, phasing out from the affordable care act that the number may be better and it was not better. that's important. and the deficit savings over the course of ten years. this bill has $321 billion in deficit savings. why does that matter? americans care about that. that gives them $200 billion above where the house came in and that matters because all they have to do is match up with the house deficit reduction to kind of comply with senate rules. that means senate majority leader mitch mcconnel

cnn's phil mattingly has been look at the full statement from director comey, and, phil, these are not the types of conversations one would expect any president to be having with his fbi director. >> reporter: yeah, jake, unorthodox would be an understatement here. unsettled is probably a great way to characterize how jim comey comes across throughout these pages of testimony. seven pages that have dominated just about everything in washington over the last couple of hours. here's the deeper look. from are the first of jim comey's nine one-on-one interactions with president trump to the last, less than a month before his firing, testimony that lays out a story of loyalty pledges, potentially damning requests and a president infewer aid by the fbi director's refusal to say publicly he wasn't under investigation. >> during the phone call he said it and then during another phone call he said, it so he said it once at dinner and then he said it twice during phone calls. >> did you call him? >> in one case i called him and one case he called me. >> and did you ask am i under investigation?

first our congressional affiliate phil mattingly with a breakdown of the senate republican health care bill. phil, we now have the cbo score. tell our viewers what it suggests. >> reporter: an all important number or numbers, wolf, especially for those republican senators who have been either sitting on a fence or saying they weren't yet ready to support this bill. on the top line, according to the cbo, 22 million fewer americans have insurance over the course of a ten-year period. that obviously is not a good top line number, something republicans that i'm talking to say is higher than expected. here's why. there are changes in the senate bill compared to the house bill particularly on the tax credit side, the slower phase out, the more gradual phase out of the medicaid expansion they thought would boost the coverage number from the house bill which was at 23 million. so, not a huge change there. you also have to look at the reduction spending. there are dramatic reforms to the medicaid program. the types of reforms conservatives have been pushing for for a long time that would cap th

phil mattingly is all over this.ve days to go before the big july 4th recess. tick, tick, tick. >> reporter: that's right. ideally, they would vote on this before the fourth of july. they want to move on this and move quickly. but they are running out of time and the reality is this, this is a remarkably different process in the house where everything seemed to be public and seemed to leak out. first and foremost, the leadership wants to give their members space to actually work out their disagreements and they are real, whether it's the medicaid piece or abortion or the structure of the tax credit or whether it's how far to cut back the regulations imposed by the affordable care act. those issues are extraordinarily complex. they want to shield their members, give them an opportunity to try and figure things out, work things out. but because of that, there's no bill text, no hearings, no real public discussion about it and it's not just frustrating to democrats opposed to this bill, like chuck schumer. it's been fru

let's go to congressional hill correspondent phil mattingly. he's on the hill for us. for senate republicans the clock is ticking toward friday. >> reporter: that is exactly right, would have. no question, there is a release vofl of sorts of the pressure on them to get a vote this week. there is optimism that came from that, that they can figure out a way to hammer out a deal. but the reality remains they are still far apart on central issues and the question becomes as they try and finalize the draft by the end of this week, will they ever get there. for senate republicans, more time, but still no clear path. >> i think we also know that it's the art of compromise here in the senate. and, so, at this point we haven't reached that critical point of compromise. >> reporter: after a multi-day frenzy, public attention and debate, the process now back behind closed doors. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell pressing his members, nine of whom have already publicly announced opposition to the draft bill to find a way to get to yes. >> we know that we cannot afford to dela

let's go to phil mattingly on capitol hill with more. good morning. >> there's a lot of behind the scenes happenings going on right now. there's a lot of public tension going on right now. the big question is regardless of relationships with the white house, within the republican conference, how do you get to 50 votes? that's what they are working on. they are trying to get something done by friday. there are some positive senses coming out. take a listen to somebody who was a no on the motion to proceed the motion to take up the bill, ron johnson, earlier this morning. >> the bottom line is we can do this. but we need the information. the problem in washington, d.c. is we talk policy absent and void of information. that was my problem with the process is it started with all these policy arguments void of any information. we finally have some information. one cbo score. i think this is going to give us an awful lot of latitude to get the votes. >> that's process. let's talk about policy. that's where this really kind of -- the rubber hit

phil mattingly up on capitol hill. president trump responded to the shooting at the gop baseball practice with a very strong appeal for national unity? let's go to our senior white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, fill us in on the president's reaction. >> reporter: wolf, it's been a quiet day over here at the white house. president trump has been checking in on congressman steve scalise's condition and he and vice president pence cancelled their events to keep tabs on the victims and we heard from a very different president trump. the president did not engage in any kind of divisive rhetoric. after the shooting he sounded a unifying theme reminding americans that people serving the national here in washington are doing so because they love their country. here's more of what he had to say. >> congressman scalise is a friend and a very good friend. he's a patriot, and he's a fighter. he will recover from this assault, and, steve, i want you to know that you have the prayers not only of the entire city behind you but

. >> our phil mattingly is on capitol hill with the latest.got jared kushner set to meet with folks in, what, the next few weeks? >> reporter: exactly right. by middle of next week, jared kushner could be meeting with senate intelligence committee staff. after that meeting, according to sources familiar with the committee, kushner could be forced to submit federal documents and then be expected to meet with the senators on the committee them self. but guys, that's just one issue right now that's bubbling up. one thing we heard from sources familiar with the closed, classified session yesterday of jim comey's hearing is that jeff sessions, the attorney general, has again come under scrutiny. this is something we know senate intelligence committee officials have been looking at over recent weeks, the idea of a third meeting, something jim comey discussed, according to sources, in this closed meeting, that the possibility that jeff sessions met with sergey kislyak, russian ambassador to the united states, in april of 2016 and this meeting wasn't

phil mattingly is live on capitol hill for us. senator on tv this morning say we might have a bill to look at by thursday. is that realistic? >> i think that's the goal right now. if you talk to senior gop aides they acknowledge that they need a proposal at the have to come to an agreement on these several outstanding issues within the next 24 to 48 hours. that would give them time to send a proposal to the congressional budget office, get that scored at some point next week, get a final proposal or draft on thursday of this week and an ideal scenario and if all works according to plan get that cbo score and vote by thursday of in week. that is the ideal scenario. but one of the road blocks here, if you will, if you look at the issues that still haven't been agreed upon, and it's worth noting inside the republican conference, when it comes to healthcare they are diedy logically very split. there's not 52 senators in their conference who agree on the basic tenents of serious issues like medicare expansion or how 0 cut back on obama

let's go to capitol hill right now where congressional correspondent phil mattingly is on the scene for us. so, phil, the majority leader mitch mcconnell said senate republicans made good progress in their meeting with the president, but how much trouble is this bill really in? >> reporter: it's in a lot of trouble, wolf. that's just to put it bluntly. there are major concerns, idea logical divides in the 52 member conference mitch mcconnell leads. as jeff noted it's in the building behind me, not in the white house, where those decisions and hopefully for senators' sake, those compromises can finally be made. tonight republican leaders coming up short on health care. >> legislation of this complexity almost always takes longer than anybody else would hope. but we're going to press on. >> reporter: at least for now. majority leader mitch mcconnell holding his pledge to vote this week. the reality sinking in the votes simply were not there. gop sources telling cnn the goal will be to finalize the long out of reach compromise this week, get a new cbo score, and then vote after the july 4t

we'll see if they can actually get there. >> phil mattingly, thank you for that. cnn law enforcement analyst james galiano, retired fbi supervisory special agent, from washington "weekly standard" reporter chris eaton. chris, let me start with you, this is one of those stories that really shook all of us who are part of the political process here. it really seemed kind of an attack on democracy. keeping all those people safe, all those people who do the work of the government, it really was a shock. what's the mood there this morning? >> sure, it still is a lot of shock. you know, i talked to some aides last night, of course, you know. washington is a city where a lot of people get to know each other quite well. and you hear names kind of float around. mr. mika, for example, has certain indiana ties and i'm an indiana guy myself. you hear stories about him and these names kind of resonate to a certain extent. it really hits home with the washington community. and when you take an event like this one, which i have attended before, it's actually in my neighborhood,

phil mattingly is joining us on capitol hill, tracking every twist and turn on this, phil, what is inversion of the senate proposal? >> reporter: really just one change. the interesting element is you talk about the senators who are already opposed to -- this change specifically isn't going to address a lot of concerns, but it is an important change for the bill, and as you noted. the cbo score coming out today. essentially what it means is if somebody loses their insurance or stops paying their insurance for more than 63 days, they would have to wait six months before they could get back into the market. the rationale is not unlike the individual man dade that obama care has, something that would be repeal. you're trying to incentivize younger, healthier individuals to make sure they get into the marketplace. that should expand the risk pool p. so they're trying to get add a mandate without actually calling it a man dade, but it's an important piece. when you look at coverage numbers. the house bill shod 23 billion would be fewer would have coverage based on that house bill. republic

phil mattingly, thanks. unhappy with the version of the health care bill that the house narly passed last month, seven governors from both parties sent a letter to majority heart mitch mcsxonl minority leader chuck schumer. the letter says the bill "calls into question coverage for the vulnerable and fails to provide the necessary resources to ensure that no one is left out while shifting significant costs to the states." joining me now, two of the governors who sent it, republican john kasich of ohio and democrat john hicken looper of colorado. governor kasich, what are you hoping to achieve by sending this letter? what would you like to see happen ideally? >> the first thing is that a republican and a democrat can get together. i mean, we have seven people on the letter. john was able to get four. i have three governors. and designed to find some common purpose, which is we all can agree that we want to make sure that the exchanges, which provide people with health care don't collapse. and we know they're

as phil mattingly and other colleagues have been noting, this is a difficult needs l to thread. they are looking to see how senators react. >> some of the reaction, slowly, slowly coming out. many are reading it for the very first time as we are as well. sarah, we'll come back to you in a moment. we are waiting to hear the president's first reaction at any moment. let's get reaction on this new senate health care plan for republicans and also what nancy pelosi said about her future. democratic congresswoman and head of the dnc, debbie wasz zerman schultz is joining me now. your reaction -- i don't assume you read 142 some pages since five minutes ago, but your reaction to what the senate unveiled to overhaul obamacare. >> yeah, i have had -- the bill was posted online at ten of 11. i have had a little bit of time to take a look at it. what's clear to me is that the senate bill takes and ax to the knees of those who finally have health care as a right, not just a privilege and give the states health benefits, making sure pregnancy is covered, making sure your mammogram is covered

phil mattingly joins us now. do you have any sense how far away they are from getting the votes they need? >> reporter: very far, to put it plainly. within an hour of senator mcconnell telling his conference behind closed doors that they would be waiting until after july fourth to vote on this bill, three new republican senators came out and opposed the discussion draft. that brings it to nine total. the interesting element here, i've had several gop aides tell me over the course of the last 24 hours, it's even worse than that if it would have gotten to the senate floor. if you want to know the scope of the problems that some senators have, take a listen to what senator susan collins of maine had to say. >> i have so many fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the cbo report, that it's difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental and deep concerns about the impact of the bill. >> reporter: anderson, that's not having a couple of problems or quibbling with a

. >> let's go to phil mattingly joining us live from capitol hill. ll we actually see the details of this senate bill and what are the big issues that apparently are still being discussed? >> reporter: according to republican senators who i just spoke to as they were walk moog that lunch meeting with the vice president were they expect details by the end of this week. senator bob corker saying he expects bill text kind of flushed out proposal by thursday. but i think it's important to note as this is all being lined up right now an ideal scenario they finish up a bill by the end of this week, they get a week to digest it, they get a week to swore it and then by next thursday they would have a vote. but before the lubbch meeting there was also a senate republican working group meeting a smaller group of senators trying to hash out details of what this bill would entail. that's the most important element of all of this, they haven't fin nishtd bill yet. when you talk about the outstanding issues, they aren't small. they aren't the types of issues you ha

phil mattingly has been out and about at the ballpark. joining us now from the center field stands. , phil? >> reporter: well, anderson, hopeful and buoyant. it's understandable how rattled capitol hill was yesterday. it was kind of a worst nightmare kind of moment. tonight is an opportunity to unify and really try to get past that. if you think about what the lawmakers and the staff are going through, everybody here really kind of in full force. more than 20,000 tickets were sold. they've raised more than $1 million for the charities. you also have steve scalise's office. they met in the capitol before, they came out here en masse. everybody wearing team scalise shirts. the entire michigan tell gradel wearing white ribbons in honor of mike mika, upgraded to stable condition from critical. a lot of people trying to reconcile what happened yesterday and at least for a brief moment, this kind of giving them the opportunity to at least hope, or at least get away from what happened yesterday, if only for a couple of hours. >> yeah, i mean, you've been talking to people on the hill since

we'll look at the angles starting with tonight's phil mattingly. >> reporter: nine one on one interactions with president trump, three in person and six on the phone, detailing former fbi director comey's testimony. comey describing one meeting with the president and other counterterrorism officials in the oval office where all but comey were asked to leave the room. i want to talk about mike flynn, comey quotes the president as saying, referring to his recently fired national security advisor. i hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting flynn go, comey says trump told him. he's a good guy. i hope you can let this go. comey goes on to say he prepared an unclassified memo of that conversation, understanding that the president was requesting he drop any probe into flynn. he shared that assessment with his fbi leadership team, but declined to share it with attorney general jeff sessions on the assumption sessions would soon be recused. while those details were kept closely held, comey says the next time he spoke to sessions, quote, i took the opportunity to implore the at

there's a lot to get to, starting with phil mattingly at the capital. so, what else is in the cbo report? >> reporter: we8, you stall, yo with that top line number, and that's important to moderates. they said their vote may be contingent on that. 22 million is the top line number, fewer americans that would have insurance over the course of a ten-year period. why that matters is this. the senate bill takes a different approach than the house bill to try and address the house bill's coverage problems. the house bill had 23 million. well, the senate has a more robust tax credit. they phase out the medicaid expansion over a slower period of time. and still, not a dramatic change in the number. and you look at the reductions in medicaid. based on what are really dramatic reforms. the types of reforms conservatives have looked for for a long time. $772 billion fewer will be spent over the course of a ten-year period. now, you noted the deficit reduction. $321 billion in deficit reduction in this bill. why does that matter? the house bill has a baseline of $

phil mattingly is also with us on capitol hill where we are waiting to hear from mitch mcconnell. phil, what is the mood there? >> reporter: well, look, the big question now is what's going to change over a week, right? that's kind of what everybody wants to know because i think it's important to note over the last couple of weeks, even months, while this has taken place behind closed doors this has involved the majority of the republican conference and mitch mcconnell knows exactly where his members currently stand and because of that, this fact they that's they weren't able to bridge the divide or reconcile what are very, very real ideological differences inside their conference, it's a big question of what even seven or days is going to do to change that fact. i'm told inside the room, inside this republican senator lunch, the message from the senate majority leader was pretty simple. we're not there yet. we want to give our guys time to get there. that is an important moment for them, the recognition that not only are they going to be able to get this done today but they're goi

jim acosta standing by, phil mattingly is up on capitol hill. phil, what is it going to take for senate republicans to get together on this health care bill. >> it is going to take senate republicans who have very public, very concrete, set positions on this bill and on health care in general, kind of as an ideology to move off those positions. and that's not a small thing. over and over again, senate republicans have been -- to s.t.a.r.t. moving towards the senate, to start giving a little bit on their key issues. what yesterday underscored was the reality of they're not there yet, and they're not very close, if you look publicly, there are nine senatorin ings who oppose draft they were trying to move forward yesterday, i'm told there are a lot more concerns from more members than are out there publicly. what they're trying to do is thread a needle between two ideological views. >> there at the white house, what do you expect from the president? what kind of role is he going to play in trying to get this bill through the senate? >> reporter: the

cnn congressional correspondent phil mattingly joins me live. o we have any idea what surprise president trump might be talking about? >> i think this is one of those moments where the shrug emoji might be the better response here. a big surprise is not definitely the offing, but having the space to work out issues, work ought a division, is helpful. it brings a sense of optimism but there is a sense of reality. at least at this point no closer to a deal. >> senate republicans need more time, but still no clear path. >> i think we already know it's a compromise here in the senate, so at this point we haven't reached that critical point of compromise. >> reporter: after a multi-day frenzy, public attention and debate, the process now back behind closed doors. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell pressing his members, nine of whom have already publicly announced opposition to the draflt bit bill, to find a o get to yes. >> we know we cannot afford to delay on this issue. we have to get this done for the american people. >> reporter: but senators

phil mattingly, thanks for the update. so let's drill down on what this bill means for the average person. joining us. cnn money's senior writer tammy luby. this is obviously complicated. who loses, who may end up in a worse situation than currently? >> the people who will be hurt are many of the people helped by obamacare. the individual market was a tough market, so you're going to have lower income rulings, a lot of changes to medicate, and they're going to lose a lot of the subsidies they got. these other subsidies they got to help them lower deductible, help them art to go to the doctor and get care. you also have older enrollees, the senate plan and house plan would allow insurers to charge in their 50s and 60s. we're talking people in their 50s and 60s those folks will have to pay more for their coverage. in fact kaiser family foundation, and a 60-year-old making about $40,000 a year will have to pay $9,000 more in coverage. >> $9,000 more? >> yes, that's 253% more. that's a pretty stunning noum better. >> and $40,0

phil mattingly is out front with more. phil, how delicate a dance is this going to be? extremely. there's an reason why jim comey and bob mueller have been speaking in advance of this testimony. they want to ensure that nothing jim comey says runs afoul or cross wise with the ongoing investigation. 2 investigation that everybody is really focused on right now is the federal investigation. that has the potential to be a criminal investigation. anything that skbrim comey says that could undercut that investigation or cause problems for bob mueller is something neither man, both of whom have a good relationship with one another over years of government service, wants to have on their record going forward. those who are close to comey's testimony say he will be willing to talk about the one-on-one conversations with the president but when it comes to the russia investigation, when it comes to specifics not just in the public hearing but also in the closed session to follow, jim comey is going to steer clear. >> that will be fascinating to see no matter what he can or cannot

let's go right now with cnn's phil mattingly. he's on capitol hill. phil, what do we expect republican senators to raise, what issues will they discuss with vice president pence, with president trump if he's there, at this meeting? >> a listening session is how one republican senator kind of characterized it as he walked to that bus. others talked about that they want to try to get at least some kind of debate going. jake, i think the interesting thing here is the issues, the topics aren't secret. everybody knows what they are. senate majority mitch mcconnell has had a very clear understanding of what each of his members, typically those opposed members, need to get to yes. the problem is the ability to actually cobble together a comprehensive final proposal that can actually reach 50 votes. jake, if you want to know just how far away they are for some senators, take a listen to what maine republican senator susan collins had to say. >> i have so many fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the cbo report that it's difficult for

. >> let's go to our congressional correspondent phil mattingly, he's up on capitol hill. we expect to see in the republican release tomorrow? >> reporter: still a lot of open questions. republican senators walking into another closed door all conference meeting, with all 52 senators to discuss the broad outline of this bill, but they still don't know on key specific details, how long is the obama care medicaid expansion, where the bill will come down on abortion, how will it cut back the regulations that are contained in obamacare. that's questions we will likely get the answers to tomorrow. a lot of republican senators expect to receive this bill tomorrow morning. while the big question is, while people aren't clear what's in it, and while they are not prepared to vote on a bill they haven't seen yet, this is what i heard from john cornyn a while ago. >> we have been debating this for about seven years, a working draft will be released tomorrow, i think all the concerns that people have had about the process will evaporate because there will be unlimited opportunities fo

let's bring in our congressional correspondent phil mattingly and cnn money senior writer, tammy lubie the senate minority leader, the democratic leader, chuck schumer, said this morning, i'm quoting, these are merely the first steps we are prepared to take in order to shine a light on the shameful trumpcare bill. will this actually give the democrats in the senate any leverage sth ? >> to the extent a minority party has leverage in the senate, this is the way to utilize it. nothing moves forward unless all senators agree to allow it to move forward. that's what senate democrats are going to object to tonight. what does this mean in practice? it means the senate floor proceedings will slow to a halt, it means committee hearings can't actually occur. overall, the business in the chamber will start to slow down. the reason why is really two-fold. first and foremost, there is a sense among the democrats not only in the senate but also outside in the activist community that not enough attention has been paid to what senate republicans have been doing behind closed doors. they want to try a

we have much more on their reaction from phil mattingly on capitol hill. >> reporter: alisyn, it was choose your news. every political party seemed to grab on to what they thought was important. when it came to republicans, on capitol hill, in talking to senators after the hearing was their perspective of no bombshell. it was a mixed bag. that is what john cornwyn. the investigations are still ongoing. they want to move forward. please get away from president trump and russia. that is something you hear repeatedly up here. another explanation and i heard a lot yesterday that is a shift. it was that the president simply doesn't know any better. he is naive and new. house speaker a degree of independence with doj, fbi and white house in the line of communications established. the president is new at this. he is new to government. so he probably wasn't steeped in the long running protocols that establish relationships with doj, fbi and white house. he is new to this. >> you said the president is new at this. he has a staff. he has a white house counsel. why is that acceptable? >> it is

. >> phil mattingly has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: it was conceived as a status update.ublican senators going to the white house, sitting down with the president and vice president, talking about where they currently stand on their version of the repeal and replace of the affordable care act. this is a crucial time in those negotiations. republicans working in a purely partisan basis, trying to figure out a path forward. but there might be a bit of a problem and that's coming from the president himself, something he hinted at at the top of the meeting. >> the senate is working very, very hard and specifically the folks in this room i really appreciate what you're doing to come out with a bill that's going a phenomenal bill for the people of our country. generous, kind, with heart. that's what i'm saying. and that may be adding additional money into it. >> reporter: let me explain why that's an interesting comment. i'm told that behind-the-scenes after the cameras left he reiterated that point over and over again, specifically referring to the house bill as quote mean, sa

let's go to our congressional correspondent phil mattingly up on the hill. ing right now? >> reporter: if you look at the senate floor, you see a familiar sight over the coming days. senate democrats are bringing light to a process that largely up to this point has taken it entirely into the dark. several senate democrats coming to the floor trying to figure out a way to get the bill, the senate republican health care bill referred to committees. that would slow the process down. mitch mcconnell has stopped them each time. the reality is, there are no plans to send these bills to committee. as it stands now, it's to have a vote on this bill next week. here's the one major hold-up. republicans don't yet have a bill. there are several key components that haven't been agreed to yet. the party is very ideologically divided when it comes to health care. in public, senate democrats railing against this process, railing against a bill they haven't seen and trying to do anything they can to slow things up as republicans prepare for a vote. again, the one major outsta

we get more on this story now from our congressional correspondent, phil mattingly. >> here is what wenow about the senate republican health care negotiations. they're happening. and that's about it.. at least at this point. this has all been behind the scenes. there's been no hearing, no public negotiations at all. and that's by design. they make clear, senator majority leader mitch mcconnell wanted to do this behind closed doors. he wanted to give his members the opportunity and space to negotiate on some at the vicive issues, whether it's medicare or the tax credit. all of these are issues that within the republican party, within their own conference, there are major, major problems. but the result of that is nobody has any idea, at least outside the room, of what's going on. frankly, some members inside don't. take a listen to what senator lisa murkowski said on alaska radio. >> yeah, i've got a proob with it. if i'm not going to see a bill before we have a vote on it, that's just not a good way to handle something that is as significant as an important as health care. >> those sen