we'll go live to phil mattingly on capitol hill. good morning to you, phil. how did this go down late last night and early this morning? >> reporter: yeah, an amazing moment. to get context from the video you saw, senator mccain voting no. the gasps and shuffling you heard were reporters sprinting out of the chamber where you can't have cell phones. that's how surprised everybody was that this occurred. sources had been saying it was possible that senator mccain was leaning leading up to the vote. mitch mcconnell, vice president mike pence, and at one point vice president mike pence handing his phone to john mccain. on the other hand, president trump trying to sway the senator. in the end, it wouldn't work. take a listen to what leaders from both sides had to say after the vote -- >> imagine many of our colleagues on the other side are celebrating. probably pretty happy about all this. our friends on the other side decided early on they don't want to engage with us in a serious way. in a serious way, to help those suffering under obamacare. >> it's time to tu

so this something only leader can answer. >> phil mattingly, thanks. so obamacare come really fail? if could begin to fail in certain areas particularly rural counties where all insurers have left. that includes 25,000 people in nevada, ohio and indiana, while another 2.7 million americans could have just one option next year. for example right now 94 of the 99 ku 9d counties in iowa only one insurer. the question to dismantle obamacare has fueled its instability and insurers aren't sure whether congress will help. but two ways that they can, sharing the cost for lower income americans and enforcing the mandate. that is key to getting younger healthier people to enroll. the bigger the pool, the big h. better for everyone. both measures offset the cost by lowering premiums, but so far lawmakers have not committed to either of those solutions. so many insurers plan to hoike rates next year. 43% by 20% or more, but those in more stable markets only plan on smaller increases of less than 10%. so in some markets, things are actually stabilizing and showing some improvement and slower gro

ron brownstein, ryan lizza, phil mattingly. l, in a way that sets us up for where we should have been all along, which is republicans, you're in control, but you have to work with the democrats. we know there are issues in the individual markets. we also know now there's a higher level of popularity for the aca than we've seen since its inception, so fix what's there. is that a reality? >> it's a difficult dynamic. look, there are republicans who are game for this. there's a recognition that short-term stabilization, some funding mechanism for the marketplace right now, obviously the cost sharing reduction money for the insurers, that needs to be settled as well. laura alexander who chairs the senate health committee is ready to move forward on a bipartisan basis. the baseline for republicans that they campaigned on is repeal. if repeal is not what they're pursuing, conservatives made very clear they're not going to help fix something. they were never for a fix, they didn't campaign on fixes. basically you would have to get indi

our congressional correspondent phil mattingly is standing by up on capitol hill. phil, what's next for the repeal and replacement of obamacare? because it looks like a huge, huge failure for the republicans right now. >> reporter: yeah. and the latest news, wolf, there's forehuge, huge failure with a third no vote. the new plan, the 3.0 version of how to repeal, move on from the affordable care act appears to be dead. lisa murkowski, senator from alaska a few minutes ago se would oppose moving on to consider the bill and join susan collins from maine a firm no against the procedural motion and likely shelley moore capito, only vote to proceed if a clear replacement option was in the legislative process going forward. track back to last night. we got to this point, repeal and replace imploded. two senators coming out senator mitch mcconnell didn't have the votes. changing strategy, telling members in the last congress you voted for a repeal-only bill. vast majority of conference minus susan collins did. we're going to have a vote on that. that has now been short-cir

doesn't guarantee a vote, but it will have an impact, no question about it, anderson. >> phil mattingly, i appreciate you on the phone. thanks very much, phil. if you're a republican and have been campaigning on this, why not vote to at least move forward, to at least keep it alive and continue the discussion? >> because then you might have to vote on it and they don't want to vote on it. that's the point. if you're lisa murkowski, you don't want to actually have to cast a vote. you want to just never have it come up, right? >> yeah. there's, like, four that don't. there's plenty that do. >> yeah. right. >> and, look, here's one of the things i've tried to counsel some of my republican friends on this. whatever ad you're worried about getting run against you is not going to be as bad as if we don't do this and our base stays home and looks like '06 or '98. they have got to do this. the white house knows it and the leadership knows it and they're going to keep doing this over and over and over again until they get it done. >> you keep coming up with cbo numbers that are saying people are

cnn's phil mattingly up all night with the senators on the hill. this was not an acceptable outcome for senate leader mitch mcconnell and, in fact, it was a surprise. >> no question about it. the furious lobbying, the tense moments, the audible gasps when senator mccain voted no, basically republicans, something they campaigned on year after year after year, at least as of now, there's no path forward. >> the ayes are 41, the nays are 51. the motion is not agreed to. >> the republican party's seven-year effort to repeal obamacare collapsing after a dramatic senate floor vote that dragged on into the early morning. in the end it was senator john mccain who cast the decisive final no vote, siding with lisa murkowski and susan collins who voiced their disapproval on every measure voted on this week. republicans last-ditch effort, the skinny repeal amendment went down 49-51. >> this is a disappointment. i regret that our efforts were simply not enough this time. >> mccain rejecting desperate pleas from vice president mike pence and senate majority lead

phil mattingly laying it out among senators. get to 50 votes to start the debate to reach a compromise? an american watching at home no matter where you live in the country, if you have any health care issue in your family, again, showing you live pictures of jared kushner. forgive me for going back and forth between health care and this. leaving the senate building, hopping in his car. applied effort. we knew not an answer to that question as jared kushner gets in the car. short drive back to the white house. see what happens once he gets there. can they do this? one of e weres the president's role. congressional leaders often say he undermined them by tweeting certain things at certain times or saying this is open to negotiation when they're trying to close the deal and get to a final vote. the president of the united states will, 3:00 this afternoon, before going to west virginia, republican senator shelley moore capito is one of the issues. a no vote right now. will the president today move this forward? with either what he

and phil mattingly is also up on capitol hill. and phil, just to you, i know you're in the thick of this scrum, maybe where some of these senators are coming out, or obviously voting now and we have the two "no" votes but in terms of pumping the brakes, yes, this is a super significant vote, this opens the floor for debate on this whole thing, but then once debate opens, i mean, who knows where this could go in terms of reepeeling apealing ang obamacare. >> reporter: in the words of senator bob corken, a republican from tennessee yesterday, it's the wild west and make no mistake, when republican leadership was starting this process, they wanted to have this locked up before they got to the amendment process. they are very aware of kind of the danger of wandering into one of these vote-a-ramas or open amendment processes and not having ensured that all of your members are protected, not having a very clear end game set to go, but frankly, up to this point, that simply hasn't been possible. still waiting on senator mccain to show up.

cnn congressional correspondent phil mattingly is live for us on capitol hill. where do things stand at the moment? >> uncertainly. that's probably the best way to describe it. you hit on the key question. does this help or hurt the process? to the latter idea there's been concern that the longer this bill sits out there, the more the public, particularly those opposed to the bill are able to put pressure on the senators that will make it even harder to pass. there's also the other side, which is there are a lot of members who as you noted are undecided. we're told there are a lot of serious concerns. listen to susan collins from earlier? >> there's about eight to ten republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill, and so at the end of the day, i don't know whether we'll pass it. >> interesting here, we know there's a handful of senators that have a real problem with this. what susan colin is says it's -- there's a lot of senators with serious concerns, what this provides is an opportunity to ask thog senators, look, don't come out as no, instead

delayed until later this afternoon, let's get an update on where things stand, what happens next, phil mattinglys up on capitol hill, phil, explain how this process is playing out and what happens next. >> reporter: yeah, wolf right here in the senate debate. we're seeing republicans and democrats jockeying back and forth about what will happen next. they are scheduled to have a vote on the repeal only bill, one that they expect will actually go down, won't have the votes to move forward, but they made promises to their members about why they will have that vote. in order for amendments to only have a simple majority threshold, they need to comply with budget rules and those rules are pretty strict, and one issue that has continue walally popped up on this has been efforts to defund planned parenthood for a year. what's happened right now, why the delay has occurred is arguments going back and forth between republicans and democrats are the senate parliamentarian as to whether or not the current language passes muster, can be moved through with just a simple majority. republicans say they think

let's begin with our congressional correspondent phil mattingly. republicans own both sides of penn avenue, so what went so wrong? >> they were faced with a diversion and toxic mix of policy differences and political differences, issues that have set them up for the brink of a failed vote and potentially a failed effort altogether. >> repealing and replacing obamacare! >> reporter: tonight, after seven years of campaign promises, six months of negotiations and despite control of the house, senate and white house, republicans have failed to repeal obamacare. >> this has been a very challenging experience for all of us. it's pretty obvious we don't have 50 members who can agree on a replacement. >> a moment marked by a chaotic moment. >> efforts to repeal and replace obamacare will not be successful. >> reporter: which was met by collapse of another, even as republican leaders still plan to press ahead with a vote now certain to fail. >> sometime in the near future we'll have a vote on repealing obamacare. there is a two-year delay. a two-year delay

. >> cnn's phil mattingly on capitol hill with more on the process and the substance debates. reporter: john, look, on the process, the separate repeal and replace option is not the option. you noted, mitch mcconnell making clear, moneying on going forward with both and external political issues talking about senators home for recess and the pressure put on them. behind the scene, the policy here that matters. look what this bill does, at least the proposal, if you look at the moderate centers. not just medicaid expansion, but states with large populations in general looking at the bill and changes, reforms to the program itself seeing reductions in spending in the second decade up to 35% for the program. a change in how federal spending is actually applied to the program. something conservatives always wanted, but when you come from a state that has a vulnerable pop langs, problematic, because the state is going to have to pick up that money right now. we talk to senators and wary that could happen. they want more money there. the focus now john is on conservatives. look what

let's bring in our congressional correspondent phil mattingly. phil, gop leaders squeaked this one through. >> reporter: no room to spare, no votes to spare. something, wolf, that really underscores that even though this was a big win today, they still have a very unclear process, no shortage of hurdles ahead. but make no mistake about it, for a plan that just days ago was left for dead, the obamacare repeal effort is now very much alive. >> mr. cruz? >> aye. >> reporter: tonight the gop effort to repeal and replace obamacare revived, even the path ahead is far from clear. >> an open amendment process. this is just the beginning. we're not out here to spike the football. this is a long way, but we'll finish at the end of the week hopefully, so we are pleased to have been able to take the first step in that direction today. >> reporter: president trump and senate republicans notching a crucial victory, securing the bare minimum of 50 votes. >> on this voe the yeas are 50 and the nays are 50. the senate being equally divided, the vice-president vote

cnn's phil mattingly has more on that from capitol hill. >> reporter: this is the moment we've been waiting for. a vote is scheduled this afternoon on at least the motion to proceed to the senate health care bill. what does that mean? that means to start the process off. you can't even start the debate let alone the amendment process until senators get 50 votes on this vote this afternoon. now, here's the reality. aides make clear they don't believe republican senators have the votes yet. they believe they're short of that magic number of 50. but there is heavy, heavy pressure, not just from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, even the rank and file, trying to get members to yes, to kick this process off. how majority leader mitch mcconnell wanted this to go is there would be an agreed-upon amendment that all 50 senators or more agreed upon to move forward. a large-scale amendment that would strip out any other version of the bill, and that they could essentially get the votes and kick this off. at least move this back over to the house as this process would work. that effort has failed

phil mattingly. cnn political analyst david trucker. perfect panel. phil mattingly. think about what a bizarre world we're living in with this process. the a quick end run. got 50 votes don't have to deal with the 60. everything plays to advantage here for the gop. mcconnell, the master of getting it done. and then, it goes against him because of the very process that he put in place. the he pushed people to make the hard decision. they didn't do it. even though in a world where lindsey graham says the bill is kind of a fraud and votes for it and still couldn't get it done. >> report ju>> reporter: mcconnm knew this didn't look good. knew the process was rnts abouting to be treated welt chl gave democrats a lot of openings for attacks. but in their minds it was the only way to actually move forward with repeal. if you're going to try toe get 60 votes, democrats are never going to come on bort. well you don't have 60 votes, reconciliation is the only thing you can move forward. there's a really question, whether you can move anything through the committee process. the

i read your notes each and every morning, phil mattingly.ell me -- this is a procedure vote, but it's my understandings the senators don't even know what it is they're proceeds on. >> the ideal world would be they would have had an agreed-upon bill, put up as a substitute amendment, and you would go into what is a very long multiple amendment after amendment after amendment process, knowing at the end this was going to be there, that was the ultimate end game and that's what you were going to vote on. that's the part that's -- and they still haven't figured out a way to compromise. if they vote tomorrow, as they are schedule to do do, to move onto the debate. what they will have is a wild west amendment process anybody can put up anything, but there's no end game there. they need not just repeal, but also some type of assured replace plan as well, that doesn't exist yet. that, brooke, is why there is a lot of question whether they can wrangle the 50 votes they need to move forward and why what the president is about to do now and what he's g

. >>> i want to bring in our congressional correspondent phil mattingly right now for the political anglem capitol hill. phil, will this extra time buy the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell the chaens nce to get votes needed with procedural motion to get an up or down vote? >> reporter: open question. talk to senate republican aides, on the plus side giving senators an opportunity to bring concerns to leadership. an explicit request over the weekend. don't come out and the become that third no vote. the vote that would kill this bill before talking to us. hold your fire, if you will. see what we can work on. that's in some sense, in that way, the delay would help. listen, wolf, to what senator susan collins said over the weekend. a clear no vote but what she had to say about her colleagues struck me as interesting. >> there are about eight to ten republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill, and so at the end of the day, i don't know whether it will pass. >> reporter: wolff,, i asked if that number, eight to ten was accurate. they said, yes, fairly accurate. that mea

phil mattingly is there with senator elizabeth warren, one of the president's most outspoken critics for an exclusive interview. phil? >> thanks, poppy. senator warren, a lot to get to. but first, i want to start. you took a trip recently with senator mccain to afghanistan. and i just kind of wanted to get -- what was he like on that trip? >> tough as a boot. and ready to go at every moment. i'm telling you, when you travel with john mccain, you get up early and you work until late at night. because that's who he is. he's there, he's there to ask questions, he's there to probe, he's there to find out information and he's there to push hard. >> so there was no sense, even then, no exaimpact, that you sa? >> not at all. >> and what's your sense, he's ideologically on a different side than you, your perspective on his role as a senate or a as a colleague? >> john mccain and i co-sponsored along with angus king and maria cantwell a glass/steagall bill, 21st century glass/steagall. he was really strong on break up the giant banks, thinks they pose a real risk to the economy, and he didn't

the guy phil mattingly talking to senators.re annoyed this thing will linger for five to seven days before they vote on it and we all know the math. how much does this president expect this to sell in the time frame? >> we did expect the president would be selling this more, he would go out there and drum up support for it. we haven't seen it. specifically in some of these red states. he and he alone can go out and just talk about the virtues and the values of some type of a new health care plan here. he has been reluctant to sort of be in on the details here. senator mcconnell did not necessarily want the president steeped in the details or working on that. but they did want him to trav travel -- improve the support for it. it is in single digits in some cases, in other cases 12% public approval for this bill. that is something some senators believe the president can do, is help urge some republicans to start supporting this. we'll see if that actually happens. between now and next week, he does not have any more travel on his

let's go to phil mattingly on the hill. skinny repeal does not fulfill the promise of repeal and replace obamacare on day one at all, but it's sort of their last shot right now? >> it's something. and i think that's better than nothing, at least as leaders look at it. and they think it's something they might be able to get the requisite number of votes to move this forward. poppy and john, you know this well, repeal and replace put on the floor couple nights ago, that went down in flames. nine republicans voted against it. repeal only went down in flames as well. seven republicans voting against it. they need to find something they can pass. that's why they've essentially gotten to this point. what is the skinny repeal actual proposal? repeal is the individual mandate, repeals employer mandate, repeals medical device tax, things republicans agree should go away. they have agreement on that. but the issue here is this, guys, if that's what they end up passing, what does it get them to? it gets them to a conference committee

. >> let's get to cnn's phil mattingly on capitol hill. a dramatic ending to the years long fight over obamacare. >> reporter: at large points, it wasn't expected. republican leaders thought they were going to get there. house republican leaders thought they were going to get there as well. it was scheduled with the expectation they would be meeting with how to vote on a conference committee with the u.s. senate. they weren't able to get the job done. the house lawmakers passed their own version. paul ryan, at this closed door meeting telling his members, we did our job saying we are the only functioning arm in congress right now. he also publicly released a statement saying, quote, we were sent to washington to fulfill the pledges we made to our constituents. unfortunately, the senate was unable to reach a consensus. i'm disappointed and frustrated, but we should not give up. i encourage the senate to work toward a solution that keeps our promise. you heard that from a lot of members from the house. we are going to underscore what happene

that is where we find phil mattingly. you have not slept in a long, long time. you were away covering moment by moment of all this. this is huge. >> reporter: no question about it. this is the thing republicans campaigned on. this is why they control the house. itis why they control the senate. it's why they control the white house. the story is moving on. house republicans were frustrated. they were meeting behind closed doors for an hour. i'm told the speaker, speaker ryan made very clear, at least how it was paraphrased, the house is the only functioning body. he read the lyrics to a song the "wreckage of the edmond fitzgerald". it's a ship that sank. the republicans were on the victory and ended up failing. listen to what republican charlie dent had to say as he came out of the meeting. >> i was not surprised. it's pretty clear to me this process was not a good one. i think one of the issues was the president never laid out core principles and didn't sell them to the american people. that is a big part of it. there's a lot that went wrong. they should never

sources on capitol hill telling our phil mattingly there that that option is not on the table. something echoed by trump's health and human services secretary yesterday. so is there a real disconnect here? >> well, there is. let me explain why this is just a strategy without substance in terms of fixing what we need to do with health care. if you listen carefully to the congressman saying have a piece of legislation with an implementation date out there. let me make it in simpler words. if you pass repeal with an effective date of, let's say, 2020, 2019, all it will do is wreak havoc with the insurance markets. and what the republicans and president trump crave is a win. so it's kind of not how you would have an orderly transition in the marketplace no matter what your politics are. i think it's kind of a trick if you just repeal. we have to look at what the effective date will be in that piece of legislation. that's crucial and will tell the whole story of whether it's a glorified press release or a step to fixing what's wrong with our health system. i suspect if you have an o

apologies for interrupting phil mattingly when the leader took the floor. as you heard phil, vote on one plans conservatives like even though it's going to fail. why do these things? mr. mcconnell is trying to, you want this, you want this. they're all going to lose and then try to pass a shell. just pass a shell for, to process america to get in a debate with the house. negotiations with the house and then essentially start this all over again. can we come up with a final product? >> somewhere between three and four procedural hurdles to get to the point they have an actual possibility of passing something, but before the moment, i just think we should consider the emotional sort of majesty of today. >> right. >> john mccain as leader mcconnell began to talk about, comes back in, you know, what can only be described as an incredibly poignant moment. we'll hear from him later today. he and he alone will be able to set the emotional parameters of this debate and the question of reopening the debate. and perhaps some of the policy parameters as well. and for h

phil mattingly on capitol hill.nks. >>> and again to that reporting, to that -- get to that level of detail, if you're mcconnell and everyone says, if anyone can pull the rabbit out of the hat it's mcconnell. this mess, it's a -- it's not a mess -- i often refer to congress sometimes as a day-care center. sometimes it is, but this is -- in part because you have legitimate philosophical policy differences an government spending role of government how much should the government be involved. but the question many republicans have, okay. seven years. promised seven years we would do this. why is it so hard? >> going to be even -- they go behind the scenes to get changes to the bill, they're going to be tweaks. this isn't going to be -- aren't major wholesale changes. one reason, big reason by the delay hurts them is that senator mcconnell added a provision to this bill drafted by senator ted cruz that essentially allows insurers to provide coverage outside of the rules of the affordable care act such as covers pre-exist

let's go live to cnn's phil mattingly, who's not slept a wink, live on capitol hill.g to you. how did this go down? >> reporter: clearly the peak vote from mccain. dramatic happenings behind the scenes leading into that. mitch mcconnell trying to bring senator mccain around. vice president mike pence on the hill to be a potential tie-breaking effort giving his best -- tie-breaking vote, giving his best effort, handing the phone to mccain -- on the phone, president trump. that didn't work either. they weren't able to deliver on the promise they've made year after year after year, and the disappointment on one side and the glee on the other was clear. take a listen to the senate leaders from both sides. >> now i image ine many of our colleagues on the other side are celebrating. probably pretty happy about all this. our friends on the other side decided early on they didn't want to engage with us in a serious way, a serious way, to help those suffering under obamacare. >> it's time it turn the page. i would say to my dear friend the majority leader, we are not celebrati

. >> cnn's phil mattingly joins me from capitol hill.t are you hearing from sources about how republican leadership was able to pull this off today? >> reporter: a lot of policy promises, a lot of political assurances and arm twisting. i'm told that even this morning, president trump, vice president pence, on the phone to on the fence members, trying to get them across the line. one source saying the president would tell members how well he did in their state and why it would be effective to vote with him on this, as the vice president ran through details. don't look past what senator mitch mcconnell was doing, behind the scenes, making the promises to his members, that they would get opportunities to vote on what they wanted policy wise. but in the end, it was the pressure that worked. members recognizing it. this was a vote, they were going to be going on the record. and almost fear of being the person that killed this issue that they voted on for several years or campaigned on for seven years. the process will continue. but there's no

phil mattingly on the hill, thank you very much. let's get some more on all of this with congressman gregory meeks, a democrat on the foreign a 235i affairs. >>> congressman, thank you for being with me. >> thank you, would have. >> do you believe he would have disclosed publicly the four meetings he had with various russians if had not been for the news media reports? he confirmed, yes, on april 27th he met with the russian ambassador kislyak. on june 9th at that trump tower meeting in, no, he met with the russian lawyer, natalia veselnitskaya. once again, on december 1st met with kislyak, the russian ambassador. then on december 13th he met with the russian banker sergey gor could have who has close ties to vladimir putin. he confirmed all of this even though some of the trump associates were calling all those reports earlier fake news. >> well, that's exactly the problem, wolf. i don't believe -- there could be other meetings. i guess he's going to try to reveal now because he knows the facts will come out. the fake news is no lo

. >> cnn's phil mattingly is on capitol hill with the latest. close is mitch mcconnell to having the votes he needs to move this forward? >> well, anderson, aides say they're still short. there are six or seven members that remain undecided, but they haven't come out as explicit nos and we've seen over the course of the last seven or eight days that members through every iteration of this senate process have essentially killed that process. they haven't done that yet. and because of that, there is at least some shred of optimism. but it's important to note what's going on behind the scenes. you've seen an all-out blilts publicly. you had vice president mike pence in ohio with senator rob portman, who is a holdout. you had the president tonight in west virginia with shelly moore capito who's a holdout. there are offers on the table i'm told by administration officials for things that holdouts could get behind the scenes. there are amendments that senate leaders are saying could be made in order for other senators. so there's an all-out blitz righ

tuesday with house intelligence. >> phil mattingly, thank you so much.ill heard, a republican of texas. he sits on the house intelligence committee. congressman, good to see you. what do you want to ask jared kushner next week? >> well, i'm always reticent talking about who is coming in and when they're coming in some times scheduling issues happen. but ultimately, when were contacts made, what was discussed, basic conversations around engagement with russian officials. i think is important in getting a laundry list of the topics of those conversations. i think is the first step. >> i also want to get your reaction to this other breaking story this evening, "the washington post" is reporting that according to current and former u.s. officials, russia's ambassador to the u.s., sergey kislyak who is considered by u.s. intelligence to not only be a diplomat, but to be a spy and spy recruiter himself, the kislyak and intercepts that were picked up by u.s. intelligence said he discussed with then senator now attorney general jeff sessions substantive campaign

phil mattingly joins us now. so what's going on at this meeting tonight, what do we know about it? interesting element, anderson, is most senators found out about senator mccain's diagnosis in this meeting. lindsey graham came in and told more than a dozen senators. senator langford led the group in a prayer and one senator said when it came to health care, this made things more difficult. this is a counting issue. this is a votes issue, and this is problematic. the big issue now is that the policy differences are very real. the point of this meeting, still going on, was to try and iron some of those out, trying to see if there was some path forward in the wake of that white house meeting. the dynamics haven't changed, anderson. we know where the medicaid expansion state senators are. we know where the conservative senator are on regulations. the question is, is there some new juice to try and get something done? there's new talks about more money being sent over to medicaid expansion states, and they do have billions of dollars to work with on that front. and perhaps changes throu

phil mattingly is out front on capitol hill, obviously, a crucial meeting.y are racing, now this big meeting. these number, though, 32 million uninsured americans, how big of a problem will they be to law makers who have already balked at numbers leak 22 million? >> reporter: yeah, erin, according to aides i have been speaking to, it's a clarifying moment, those who couldn't think of yes, this is what senate majority mcconnell said repeal only, it's the type of things we have seen, republican senators saying absolutely no. i won't vote for that or to proceed on that, it's inpart starting to go on behind me administration officials and senators file in. i think it's important to note here, ereturn, as all of this starts to happen, as this lunch happened today and certainly there is positive momentum. compared to what we have 18 over the last couple weeks. i am told be skeptical. very skeptical. that's a quote. reality on replace is there is a reason it collapsed originally t. ideological divides are real t. efforts to revive it, they will see what they can do

let's go to cnn's phil mattingly on capitol hill. exactly sure what they're voting on here. they voted on the house bill. what happened to the senate bill? is there a cbo score? there are no hearings. what's going on? >> it's very complicated. one of the things the senator said after the vote was we're not spiking a football. what they voted on was simply to start the debate. any senator can offer a jermaine amendment within the bills which means we have a lengthy process for senators ahead. we already know they don't have the support for a bill. another amendment would come up. $100 billion would be add nd that for regulations for concerned senators. the ted cruz bill would be add nd as well. what you're seeing, jake, is here's why people voted yes, but we don't know where this is going to end up and that's a pretty precarious position for any senator to be in. >> after the vote, senator mccain gave a speech on the floor, not giving any other information except for court justice. >> he said the body simply doesn't apply. >> critics o

let's get straight up with cnn's phil mattingly, who has the unenviable tasks of sorting this out. >> reporter: what we're waiting for is the repeal only. the to 15 repeal bill, something that had been brought up as a possibility by majority leader mcconnell last week, they clearly didn't have the support for it. that's been delayed until at least 3:30. as you go through this process, it's very complicated, people are trying to file amendments, trying to figure out timelines as we move through this process, this 20 hours of debate they're currently allowed to have on health care. but the big overarching question that repeal only vote is expected to fail. and then what happens next? we have a series of amendments republicans want to put up. are they able to get the required 50 votes? right now the answer is no. what can mitch mcconnell do to get the 50 votes to this bill can actually move forward. this idea that we're going to ratchet back, kind of a pared back plan that everybody can get on board with. just keep moving forward, at some point we can get to the point where we can actual

phil mattingly is on capitol hill. sident trump on twitter urging congress to repeal obamacare now and replace it later. is there a sense that there's been any support for that? >> reporter: look, there's support for it almost certainly from conservative senators, people like rand paul, senator ben sasse and mike lee saying, if we can't finish up the current negotiations, a great all miv but that's not the plan and they want want to move into that as a fallback position now. e in want to get done what they're actually working on. what is that? negotiations occurring behind the scenes right now. working with a conference thing, in touch with the conference figuring out the pathway forward. they left nor recess not having the 50 votes needed to move it forward or finalized proposes. but always the case, know what they want, what senators from states with vulnerable medicaid populations want. mostly more money a softer landing for major, major dramatic reforms made and know what conservatives want. how to cut back the regu

. >> with us to share their reporting and insights julie pace, phil mattingly, and sarah morry. >> unswayed by the crittism of recent days. >> the fake media is trying to silence us, but we will not let them because the people know the truth. the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house, but i'm president and they're not. >> now, it's hardly news that the president is thin-skinned and has been overly sensitive to cable news. all words we've heard before. i'm sorry, mr. president, not from the 3450edia from but from the president's own friends and allies after tweet storms launched by our very different 44th president. more and more of the president's fellow republicans are discussing his concerns about his discipline and his temperament not as anonymous sources but on the record, on camera. >> that's a tweet that's not even becoming a city councilman. >> i'm not going to even defend his tweet. it was ugly. and personally do hold the president of the united states to a higher standard. >> a conservative, but never a trump fan summed up the temperament talk in this way. inpul

phil mattingly, the man with answers. phil? >> reporter: the president going more carrot than stick. as you noted, the senate is now in session. leader mcconnell is on the floor. it's worth noting, it's not what is happening on the floor at least for a couple hours or 12 or 15 or 16 hours. you mentioned the idea of a skinny repeal. that is where leaders ended up, based on the failures of other proposals. compile options they know or hope 50 members will agree on. repeal the mandate. repeal the employer mandate. repeal the medical device tax. there are other issues being tossed around to bring other senators along. what's worth pointing out, what it doesn't do. it doesn't touch obamacare's preexiting conditions, community rating that are crucial to conservative support. the question is, can they corral 50 votes here for that? why would they want to do something that departs from where they were or started in this process? the reason is, they need to move the process forward. leaders made it clear to members whether on medicaid o

joining me now to start off, cnn's correspondent, phil mattingly is here. where do things stand? >> reporter: fluid. there's no question, very fluid. all the aides said there is concern for senator mccain. when it comes to the health care bill, there's a recognition with john mccain, they aren't there yet. they don't have the 50 votes to move forward. there's a lot of work to do. i was talking to a senior gop aide. he said every day we don't get another no vote, it's a small victory. it's a low bar for success, but underscores the challenge they have behind the scenes. the dynamics, you know them well. we talked about them for a couple months. medicaid senators who and others who are concerned about the medicaid program, reductions in spending over the period of time. senator ted cruz's freedom amendment which would allow for stripped down plans so long as an affordable care act is offered, while that is in there, not all conservatives are on board. senator rand paul is a no and mike lee is undecided. it was thought that would bring them on board. that hasn't been the case. i'm t

let us begin with cnn's phil mattingly on capitol hill where he's been for the last 72 hours straightporter: look, it's interesting you note that house republicans are meeting right now. because that meeting was supposed to be about health care. and the next steps and the potential vote later today to go to conference with the bill the senate was spoesupposed to pass not. if you want to get a sense of how dramatic last night was, there were audible gasps. it's worth noting there was some sense going on in the hours leading up to it that he was certainly not quite to yes yet but the willingness particularly after republican leaders had been lobbying him feariously and trying every which way possible to get him on board. vice president mike pent wce wan hand to be the tie breaking vote. at one point told he pulled him off to the side, trying to walk him through the process. at one point the president called the vice president who then handed von to -- nothing working. mk cain joining lisa merkowski and susan collins. why did mccain actually do in? there's got a lot of theories running a

let's get over to phil mattingly who is very good at following all of it for us. where are we right now? is it two steps forward or is it three steps back? >> i know when you left these marble hallways a few years ago, you were hoping second degree amendments to the substitute amendment -- >> music to my ears. >> were a thing of the past. we are in that right now. that can make things complicated. what republicans are doing is moving through the amendment process. democrats as well. republicans are starting to put up test votes. last night they did their repeal and replace version plus an additional $100 billion that medicaid expansion state senators negotiated. they knew it was going to fail. had a 60 vote threshold. but they wanted to put it up and see where their members were. they lost that vote by seven votes. they lost it 43-57, nine republicans total left them, seven was basically how -- what put them over the edge there. that's a bad sign. repeal and replace, which is where they want to end up on this, did not get a very good showing last night. as you not

phil mattingly, i want to go to you first to talk about this cbo score. we have this new updated number that is quite significant because we talked about the repeal and replace bill and the price tag there. this is for just the repeal bill. >> yeah, and it's a little bit head spinning to know actually where we are in the debate process, which iteration of these various bills that are actually being considered by senate republicans, but this is the crux of the plan that senator mcconnell announced he's going to pursue. this would be, according to his statement, the first amendment up. the cbo has a score on that and why they turned it around so quickly is this is essentially a very similar version to the 2015 bill that the senate also voted on and the numbers are devastating, there's no question about it, because it's repeal only. it would save $473 billion over the course of 10 years, but in terms of coverage, by 2026, 32 million fewer than under current law would have no coverage. and the bigger issues would probably be premiums because republicans have

phil mattingly starts us off from capitol hill. minute by minute, where does the support stand among republicans for this move? >> reporter: doesn't look good. keep in mind what happened over the course of 12-15 hours. it's been amazing the speed which this occurred. two republican senators came out opposing the senate draft bill they have been working on. that essentially killed that. mcconnell announcing they would remove ward on the repeal only plan. senators coming out saying they are opposed to a vote on the repeal only plan. you have susan collins saying she is opposed to the vote to take up the repeal only plan. obviously senator mccain not in washington as he recovered from health issues. rob portman saying he has serious concerns about the repeal only plan. put this in perspective where we are right now. what senate majority leader mitch mcconnell needs is have a plan. he needs at least 50 of 52 senators to support that. if john mccain is out, that's one vote that is gone, if they don't wait for him to get back. you have s

cnn correspondent phil mattingly on capitol hill. my friend, how good are you at a rubik's cube? not very at all. of your ilk, completely incapable of doing those things. what happened, repeal and replace separated? not the plan. go with mitch mcconnell's words on this. working behind the scenes trying to negotiate, figuring how to deep one end from not falling off? same issues we've always talked about. moderate side, more money more medicaid, easier phaseout, conservative side, cutbacks of obama regulations. how they marry those will dictate whether or not this bill survives. all senators are home. during this july 4th recesses, trying to put on the pressure not just in town halls, there aren't that many, but fourth of july parades. serious external pressure, interesting to see where senators are when he return in a week. >> stand by. we'll be back in a moment. i never joined in. that wasn't fair to any of us. i was covered. i tried lots of things over the years. but i didn't give up. i kept on fighting. i found something that worked. that still works. now? see me. see me. i fo

phil mattingly up on capitol hill. thanks very much. >>> going to our national correspondent jason carroll at the white house. what did we just hear from the president. initial reaction very different to his subsequent reaction. seems to be contradicting himself occasionally at times as well? >> reporter: right. reading through the tweets, seems to be doing that. you just heard his statement saying he was first surprised here that this bill failed and also disappointed. saying once again i'll repeat here, that he is not going to own it. i tell you the republicans are not going to own it. we'll let obamacare fail and then let the democrats going forward come to us. so this president saying, he's not going to own it, but, wolf, he does own it. he's the president of the united states. and there's a lot of critics out there saying he should have been doing more before we even got to this point. more in terms of engaging. just look at the optics what happened yesterday. he was out here yesterday on that it fire truck wearin

cnn's phil mattingly is live on capitol hill with more. what's the latest, phil? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. we're certainly set up for a dramatic next 24 hours, a conclusion of the senate debate coming soon. if there's one thing we learned over the last 48 hours, it's that republicans definitively cannot agree on a repeal and replacement plan. we saw this a couple nights ago, falling well short, nine republicans voting against it. the repeal-only option, an amendment that would cut back large swaths of obamacare, that fell short. seven republicans voting against that. where does that leave us now? well, the alternative that republicans are starting to coalesce around, the idea the republican leaders are pushing, as you noted, call the skinny repeal. essentially what it is, a very paired-back repeal of three key elements of obamacare, the individual mandate, the employer mandate and the medical device tax. this is something all republicans agree they dislike. that's the key element here. they're trying to find something everybody can agree on. do republican

cnn's phil mattingly still trying to sift through the ashes live up on capitol hill. phil what is next? >> reporter: yeah. a lot more questions than answers here. one thing we have an answer to. senate republicans we've seen repeatedly over the course of the last couple weeks are at this point incapable of getting 50 votes for any repeal or replace proposal. from the fullest to the most bare bones they are incapable of doing this. leaving credence to what senator mcconnell said on the floor after the vote failed. it's time to move on. i think he talked to a lot of rank and file republicans. don't like the process. don't like how it worked out but recognize, john, they campaigned on this. for seven years. a primary reason they hold majorities in the house and senate, partially a reason why they currently control the white house and they haven't been able to figure it out. this morning, house republicans met at a conference meeting that aides said was to discussion the next steps forward on health care. supposed to vote on appointing conferees by this afternoon. the assu

cnn's jeff zeleny, cnn's phil mattingly and jackie call, of the "los angeles times." now, if the white house shake-up brought in anthony scaramucci as communications director was designed to take public all the messy white house in-fighting that previously played out for anonymous sources, then score a smashing success. >> as you know from the italian expression, the fish stinks from the head down. i can tell you two fish that don't stink? okay? that's me and the president. i don't like the activity going on in the white house. i don't like what they're doing to my friend. i don't like what they're doing to the president of the united states. or fellow colleagues in the west wing. if you want to talk about the staff, we have had odds. we have had differences. when i said we were brothers from the, from the podium, that's because we're -- some brothers are like cain and abel. other brothers can fight with each other and get along. i don't know if this is repairable or not. in a will be up to the president. >> okay. if the goal inspire confidence in the cabinet things w