the my name is phil mcallister and i am the director of commercial space at nasa headquarters. right now what we're seeing is in space there's just a tremendous amount of opportunity, but nobody's exactly sure. what's going to be the real money maker. obviously we're are seeing transportation. we see people make money at that. but them, when they get into space, what can they do? what are things that are really going to make money? and i don't think anybody knows for certain what that's going to be. it's just their 1st step to doing more and older things. so i think the companies that are offering this capability to de version galactic blue origin space x they, this is just the 1st step to a larger grand or vision of what they want to accomplish. the commercial space companies say making mas, habitable for humans. this one, this, the ad goals and outspoken champion of this concept is space 6. so not even mosque the controversial b and as played and outsized role, in triggering the current space. there are really 2 fundamental tops industry is going to bite the k 12 directions.