former hp ceo phil mckin ifney s down with me for a wide ranging conversation. plus taking money from the bob by selling your stuff on facebook. does so-called f commerce everyone work? our reporter fritz nelson and joe mann this week on "press: here." >>> hewlett-packard is stilly convalley's oldest company. hp has been accused of being a bit staunchy. it's easy to forget hp's biggest obstacle is stonlg giness because hewlett-packard seems to be in constant flux. >> will is the hp touch bad. >> take hatheir tablet computer. it hit stores in july of last summer and the company abandoned the whole effort just 49 days later. in the middle of all this was hp's head of innovation, phil mckinney. >> hey, wire not going to just let randomly wait for innovation. you're expected to come up with a killer innovation. >> as chief technology officer at the company's personal systems group, mckinney survived an be absurd number of ceos reshuffling and layoffs as he quietly tried to pull hp along into the future. phil mckinney just retired as vice president of hewlett-packard