phil newton is right here with me.side this submersible. just so you know, there are four of us in a space that i would say would seem -- let's go to our pilot. jeff eaton is the man who is actually driving this thing. i would point out that phil newton has years and years, decades of upped water recovery effort. >> that's true. like everything else, it's never easy. as you can see as we move to get a better grip on this thing, a big cloud of silt swells up from the bottom. we have to wait for the silt to settle before we can see what we're doing. no matter what method is used to cover any portion of the wreckage or the data recorder, the same problem is going to hold true. >> we can actually look out through this -- this is plexiglas here? >> yes, flex glass. >> just to reassure me? >> three inches thick. a panoramic view. you can look out here. as phil has already mentioned, they call it -- >> the emerald sea. >> yes, for a reason. you can see there's a great deal of stuff that's hanging in the water and really that'

i should introduce phil newton an expert on this type of thing. we discussed the rov. problems with that even though there's nobody on board, it's tethered and has to go down 15,000 feet. >> that's a lot of tether and that's the major problem, the idea we have that much tether loose in the water column with all kinds of cross current possibilities and that sort of thing. normal normally they losen the deployment cage and then the rov flies out of the cage but that produces its own problems because the rov flies out of the cage. >> i will show you real quick. here's the diver outside. normally at this great depth there would be nobody outside. it gives you a real sense here of the gloom. that's one of the important things to note here, don, that we have lighting on right now, but there is a tremendous gloom out here. just particulate matter floating in the water. >> that's right. it's kicked up by the thrusters largely from the sub. any device used to dive on this would cause vertical and horizontal thrusters and it causes a dust cloud, what we call a sediment cloud flo

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phil newton is the man who is joining me here. we're right now working through a problem.t can exist when you are working in a submersible at depth. right now the issue we've got here is, what, the arm sort of -- >> the arm is -- we've just been maybe over taxing it in the last little while, and it's being a bit cranky at the moment. we need to get it clear and check it out and make sure that all the functions are working the way it is supposed to be working. >> reporter: this requires a lot of sort of many people communicating. we have a pilot that navigates in the back. you have phil up front who is manipulating with the mechanical arm. you have the ocean conditions out here. take a look. we're looking out there glass. this always worries me. what if the -- how thick is this glass? >> it's about this thick. three inches thick. >> it's a good three inches. it gives you a fantastic, you know, sort of panoramic view, and if you ever get any sense of clausherphobia, it's great to have a look. what are the lights that are illuminating? we should point out it would be dog gone

i'm with phil newton. he knows so much about underwater recovery.show is essentially what would happen in a deep sea recovery as they try to retrieve the black boxes or whatever material they need. they are going to run across obstacles and they could be many. in this scenario we set up, it's wire and wire that has to be cut through. tell us -- well, let's do it and tell us as we go. >> we are going to sever the wire with a hydraulic cutter. we are going to handle it manually, but normally, it's run by a high pressure hydraulic unit. >> jeff, in the back, is going to start cutting it manually. >> he's pumping and cutting. there is slowly something closing on that cable out there. >> it is. i'm going to energize it. jeff, crank up the hpu. we are hot on the manipulator. he is closing on that cutter. i'll move that piece of cable out of the way with the manipulator once it's cut there. >> what this points out is all of this has to be done carefully, procedurely and above all, it takes time. if there's just one cable, that's just one to be cleared. the