reverend phil reller, where are you, phil? okay. appreciate you being here. from los angeles. we have daryl williams, baird, williams & greer. excuse my, about to forget. this is the man, this is the man, he said be sure tell you he's a right wing republican. what daryl, in my opinion, he's a trial lawyer, defense and plaintiff, he led the charge to recall russell pearce, the author of 1070, the man that led the charge to recall russell and vote him out of office. thank you, thank you, daryl. martial fit is our moderate marshall, he's with the director of immigration policy. thank you. >> thanks so much, norm. thanks so much, todd. thanks to everyone who's worked together convene this important discussion today. >> to -- the congressman for hosting. now, while political prowess has prevented congress from tackling an overhaul of the immigration system, it's an overhaul that's pointed as long overdue and one that many of us have been fighting for many years to achieve. the pressures of a large undocumented population continue to be foisted on state and local governments and com