phil robertson is the deputy director of human rights watch in the asia division. he joins us live by scott from boston. thank you for your time. what was your initial reaction when you heard about this plot? well, what the slot really shows is the brutal rights abusing and law violating orientation of this be on more military. it shows that the student does for more than willing to run roughshod over international norms and basically do anything to stay in power. yeah. do you think this is partly also sending a message? should the general is wanting to send a warning? i guess, to anyone who is critical no matter where they are? well, i certainly think that they see drama don't. as the ambassador in the u. n as a major problem for them. you know, he occupies a very important seats in the u. n. you know, we and other groups are busy. they're trying to push resolutions for an international arms in barstow and for target and economic sanctions. and he's the linchpin of any effort by the military to push back it back against that. and they can't do that because he has