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when we come back, phil rucker and kathie obradovich. ♪ john: joining us now are phil rucker, correspondentthe washington post," and kathie obradovich - i love saying that name -- of "the des moines register." kathie, i want to talk about the democratic race, leading to phil's latest story, but give us a sense of where things stand between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. kathie: i don't think it could possibly be any closer. the polls show a couple points apart and people are still making up their minds. everything is going to matter. do endorsements matter? usually they don't, but everything matters now. this town hall tonight, no one can afford to make a step out of line. john: you don't dispute the notion, though, that there is a large and enthusiasm gap between the sanders forces and clinton forces? which may not be decisive, but there is a large gap. kathie: enthusiasm matters only if people don't go out to the caucuses. if we have bad weather and some people think, oh, well, i don't need to go -- but in a close race everybody gets enthusiastic and everybody thinks that their vote

my colleague phil rucker and i were calling around the republican establishment to top donors in the party and post this last debate we said where is the donor class moving and they said there's a new realization within this group, the billionaires and the millionaires that have funded the party for decades, that is in essence a two-person race, trump versus cruz, and there's an inclination now that trump could be the nominee, and there are people right now reaching out to trump to try to get meetings, to try to get into his inner circle. that was said on the record by romney's former finance chairman. >> the implication there is that establishment donors, establishment sort of big ticket republicans in looking at trump versus cruz they're going to side with trump? >> there's an inclination toward trump over cruz. and not so much because they know trump well, but he seems to be more of their ilk. he's someone who has a lot of friends on wall street. cruz does as well, but cruz is a hard-liner. he's ideological. the gop donor class is not so much driven by ideology but by power. >> on